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		<title>Rundown of the UU conference</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 13:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>For great info, you can follow the twitter feeds of: <a title="Marty Duren's Twitter Feed" href="http://twitter.com/martyduren" target="_blank">Marty Duren</a>, <a title="Micah Fries' Twitter Feed" href="http://twitter.com/micahfries" target="_blank">Micah Fries,</a> <a title="Twitter|Trevin Wax" href="http://twitter.com/trevinwax" target="_blank">Trevin Wax</a> and <a title="Art Rogers' Twitter Feed" href="http://twitter.com/artrogers" target="_blank">me</a>.</p>
<p>For blogs of the full content, be sure to check out <a title="Trevin Wax|Kingdom People" href="http://trevinwax.com" target="_blank">Trevin Wax</a> and <a title="Steve Weaver|Pastor Steve Weaver" href="http://pastorsteveweaver.wordpress.com" target="_blank">Steve Weaver</a>.</p>
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<p>For blogs of the full content, be sure to check out <a title="Trevin Wax|Kingdom People" href="http://trevinwax.com" target="_blank">Trevin Wax</a> and <a title="Steve Weaver|Pastor Steve Weaver" href="http://pastorsteveweaver.wordpress.com" target="_blank">Steve Weaver</a>.</p>
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		<title>Ed Stetzer and the Future of Denominations</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>art rogers</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Could you tell that I&#8217;ve lost my passion for live blogging?  I&#8217;d forgotten to even write about Ed until this morning. :)</p>
<p>But I do have several things to offer.</p>
<p>First, <a title="Trevin Wax|Kingdom People" href="http://trevinwax.com" target="_blank">Trevin Wax</a> is here and is ready to challenge <a title="Timmy Brister|Provocations and Pantings" href="http://timmybrister.com" target="_blank">Timmy Brister</a> for champ of the live blog.  <a title="Trevin Wax|Ed Stetzer" href="http://trevinwax.com/2009/10/06/ed-stetzer-denominationalism-is-there-a-future/" target="_blank">Here are his notes on Ed&#8217;s presentation</a>.</p>
<p>Also, <a title="MissioScapes Twitter Feed|Search.twitter.com" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=missioscapes">here is a link to the tweets I put up at the MissioScapes twitter feed</a>.</p>
<p>Finally, I&#8217;d like to summarize my reaction to Ed&#8217;s super fast talking.</p>
<p>The gist of it all was that, yes, we will have denominations, but what they will look like has yet to be determined. Nevertheless, churches naturally will find each other and will work together if they have a passion for the Great Commission.</p>
<p>Still, there are benefits and burdens that go along with denominations. The burdens center around our tendency to focus on the mechanisms of our cooperation rather than our common calling.</p>
<p>The benefits are many and, quite frankly, are both obvious and listed in the above links.</p>
<p>What most struck me about the message was the forceful tone he took calling for cooperation.  This might not surprise you, but what might surprise you is that, at one point, Ed suggested that if certain people can&#8217;t get along with the rest of us, insist on attempting to run everyone else out or force us to conform, then THEY should leave the convention.</p>
<p>The people about whom he was speaking were obvious to the engaged SBC observer and even to the more disengaged former SBC blogger, like myself.</p>
<p>In terms of pointed rhetoric, Ed was somewhere between his usual provocativity and Marty Duren from back in the old days.  On the SBC spectrum of &#8220;lighting it up,&#8221; if Micah Fries is a 1 (humbly opinioned) and Ben Cole is a 10 (Shock &amp; Awe), Ed normally resides in the middle at a happy 5.  I&#8217;d have to say that last night, Ed jumped up to 8 on a few occasions, which was kind of fun.</p>
<p>Especially because I agreed with him.</p>
<p>Had he been talking more about me (and he did from time to time) I might not have enjoyed it as much.</p>
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</span><p>Could you tell that I&#8217;ve lost my passion for live blogging?  I&#8217;d forgotten to even write about Ed until this morning. :)</p>
<p>But I do have several things to offer.</p>
<p>First, <a title="Trevin Wax|Kingdom People" href="http://trevinwax.com" target="_blank">Trevin Wax</a> is here and is ready to challenge <a title="Timmy Brister|Provocations and Pantings" href="http://timmybrister.com" target="_blank">Timmy Brister</a> for champ of the live blog.  <a title="Trevin Wax|Ed Stetzer" href="http://trevinwax.com/2009/10/06/ed-stetzer-denominationalism-is-there-a-future/" target="_blank">Here are his notes on Ed&#8217;s presentation</a>.</p>
<p>Also, <a title="MissioScapes Twitter Feed|Search.twitter.com" href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=missioscapes">here is a link to the tweets I put up at the MissioScapes twitter feed</a>.</p>
<p>Finally, I&#8217;d like to summarize my reaction to Ed&#8217;s super fast talking.</p>
<p>The gist of it all was that, yes, we will have denominations, but what they will look like has yet to be determined. Nevertheless, churches naturally will find each other and will work together if they have a passion for the Great Commission.</p>
<p>Still, there are benefits and burdens that go along with denominations. The burdens center around our tendency to focus on the mechanisms of our cooperation rather than our common calling.</p>
<p>The benefits are many and, quite frankly, are both obvious and listed in the above links.</p>
<p>What most struck me about the message was the forceful tone he took calling for cooperation.  This might not surprise you, but what might surprise you is that, at one point, Ed suggested that if certain people can&#8217;t get along with the rest of us, insist on attempting to run everyone else out or force us to conform, then THEY should leave the convention.</p>
<p>The people about whom he was speaking were obvious to the engaged SBC observer and even to the more disengaged former SBC blogger, like myself.</p>
<p>In terms of pointed rhetoric, Ed was somewhere between his usual provocativity and Marty Duren from back in the old days.  On the SBC spectrum of &#8220;lighting it up,&#8221; if Micah Fries is a 1 (humbly opinioned) and Ben Cole is a 10 (Shock &amp; Awe), Ed normally resides in the middle at a happy 5.  I&#8217;d have to say that last night, Ed jumped up to 8 on a few occasions, which was kind of fun.</p>
<p>Especially because I agreed with him.</p>
<p>Had he been talking more about me (and he did from time to time) I might not have enjoyed it as much.</p>
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		<title>The Future of Denominationalism Schedule</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1840" title="denominationalism" src="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/denominationalism.jpg" alt="denominationalism" />I mentioned Friday that I was traveling to Jackson, TN for this conference and as you read this, I am on the road.</p>
<p>I mentioned that I would be blogging and twittering from there during the conference.  given that, you might want to check out my twitter feed: <a title="Art Rogers' Twitter Feed" href="http://twitter.com/artrogers" target="_blank">twitter.com/artrogers</a>, or the missioscapes twitter feed: <a title="MissioScapes Twitter Feed" href="http://twitter.com/missioscapes" target="_blank">twitter.com/missioscapes</a>, or even these guys, who will also be there: <a title="Marty Duren's Twitter Feed" href="http://twitter.com/martyduren" target="_blank">twitter.com/martyduren</a> &amp; <a title="Micah Fries' Twitter Feed" href="http://twitter.com/micahfries" target="_blank">twitter.com/micahfries</a>.</p>
<p>My plan is to twitter live, either through my own feed or through the MissioScapes feed, or both.  Then I&#8217;ll recap thoughts in a blog post later.</p>
<p>Here is a schedule published by Union University that you might consider if you are looking to follow live tweets on particular issues:</p>
<div id="fullcontent">
<h4>Schedule</h4>
<p><!-- 	li {list-style: none;} --></p>
<h5>Tuesday, October 6</h5>
<ul>
<li><strong>5:00 p.m.</strong> Ed Stetzer: Denominationalism: Is There a Future?</li>
<li><strong>6:00 p.m.</strong> Dinner</li>
<li><strong>7:00 p.m.</strong> Jim Patterson: Reflections on 400 Years of the Baptist Movement: Who We Are. What We Believe.</li>
</ul>
<h5>Wednesday, October 7</h5>
<ul>
<li><strong>Continental Breakfast</strong></li>
<li><strong>8:30 a.m.</strong> Harry L. Poe: The Gospel and Its Meaning: Implications for Southern Baptists and Evangelicals</li>
<li><strong>10:00 a.m.</strong> Timothy George: Baptists and Their Relations with Other Christians (G. M. Savage Chapel)</li>
<li><strong>Noon</strong> Luncheon Address &#8211; Duane Litfin: The Future of American Evangelicalism</li>
<li><strong>2:00 p.m.</strong> Ray Van Neste: The Oversight of Souls: Pastoral Ministry in Southern Baptist and Evangelical Life</li>
<li><strong>Afternoon and dinner on your own</strong></li>
<li><strong>7:00 p.m.</strong> Corporate Worship: Robert Smith, preaching, (G. M. Savage Chapel)</li>
</ul>
<h5>Thursday, October 8</h5>
<ul>
<li><strong>Continental Breakfast</strong></li>
<li><strong>8:30 a.m.</strong> Mark DeVine: Emergent or Emerging: Questions for Southern Baptists and North American Evangelicals</li>
<li><strong>10:00 a.m.</strong> Daniel Akin: The Future of the Southern Baptist Convention</li>
<li><strong>Noon</strong> Luncheon Address &#8211; Michael Lindsay: Denominationalism and the Changing Religious Landscape in North America</li>
<li><strong>2:00 p.m.</strong> Jerry Tidwell: Missions and Evangelism: Awakenings and Their Influence on Southern Baptists and Evangelicals</li>
<li><strong>6:00 p.m.</strong> Banquet</li>
<li><strong>7:00 p.m.</strong> David S. Dockery: So Many Denominations: The Rise and Decline of Denominationalism and the Shaping of a Global Evangelicalism</li>
</ul>
<h5>Friday, October 9</h5>
<ul>
<li><strong>Continental Breakfast</strong></li>
<li><strong>8:30 a.m.</strong> Nathan Finn: Southern Baptists and Evangelicals: Passing on the Faith to the Next Generation</li>
<li><strong>10:00 a.m.</strong> R. Albert Mohler, Jr.: Southern Baptists, Evangelicals, and the Future of Denominationalism (G. M. Savage Chapel)</li>
</ul>
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<p>*There is one caveat.  I am also dealing with a great many things personal and professional while on this trip.  I am not guaranteeing that I will be at every session to tweet/blog.  I fully intend to be at the ones I perceive as most relevant.  This is not to discount any of the speakers or their topics, but to simply let everyone know that other things may take precedence for me.</p>
<img src="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/eadd809f/266bb3ef/CCBot/1.0 (+http://www.commoncrawl.org/bot.html).gif" /><hr /><h2>Comments</h2><ul><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/10/05/the-future-of-denominationalism-schedule/">October 6, 2009</a>, Vicki writes: Wow, I'm excited for you.  I wish Bart and I could hear some of the speakers and their topics, especially Ed's.  Can't wait for your reports.  Be safe.</li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/10/05/the-future-of-denominationalism-schedule/">October 7, 2009</a>, <a href='http://iemissional.com' rel='external nofollow' class='url'>Marty Duren</a> writes: I hear you have a studly room mate.</li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/10/05/the-future-of-denominationalism-schedule/">October 7, 2009</a>, <a href='http://twelvewitnesses.com' rel='external nofollow' class='url'>art rogers</a> writes: Who told you that? Sonya? She's partial.</li></ul><hr /><h2>Related posts:</h2><ul><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/10/02/the-future-of-denominations/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: The future of denominations">The future of denominations</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2007/02/15/frank-page-union-university-baptist-identity-conference/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Baptist Identity Pt. 1">Baptist Identity Pt. 1</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/10/07/ed-stetzer-and-the-future-of-denominations/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Ed Stetzer and the Future of Denominations">Ed Stetzer and the Future of Denominations</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/07/09/church-staffing-mixed-matched-by-malcolm-gladwell/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Church Staffing:  Mis-Matched by Malcolm Gladwell">Church Staffing:  Mis-Matched by Malcolm Gladwell</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2006/02/10/this-weekend/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: This weekend&#8230;">This weekend&#8230;</a></li></ul><hr /><small>Copyright &copy; Art Rogers|12 Witnesses 2008<br /> This feed is for personal, non-commercial use only. <br /> The use of this feed on other websites breaches copyright. If this content is not in your news reader, it makes the page you are viewing an infringement of the copyright. If you suspect copyright infringement, please contact legal@twelvewitnesses.com.  Thanks.  (Digital Fingerprint:<br /> 4fb9806df94a8f093ce1b84a21d62535 (38.107.179.239) )</small>
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</span><p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1840" title="denominationalism" src="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/denominationalism.jpg" alt="denominationalism" />I mentioned Friday that I was traveling to Jackson, TN for this conference and as you read this, I am on the road.</p>
<p>I mentioned that I would be blogging and twittering from there during the conference.  given that, you might want to check out my twitter feed: <a title="Art Rogers' Twitter Feed" href="http://twitter.com/artrogers" target="_blank">twitter.com/artrogers</a>, or the missioscapes twitter feed: <a title="MissioScapes Twitter Feed" href="http://twitter.com/missioscapes" target="_blank">twitter.com/missioscapes</a>, or even these guys, who will also be there: <a title="Marty Duren's Twitter Feed" href="http://twitter.com/martyduren" target="_blank">twitter.com/martyduren</a> &amp; <a title="Micah Fries' Twitter Feed" href="http://twitter.com/micahfries" target="_blank">twitter.com/micahfries</a>.</p>
<p>My plan is to twitter live, either through my own feed or through the MissioScapes feed, or both.  Then I&#8217;ll recap thoughts in a blog post later.</p>
<p>Here is a schedule published by Union University that you might consider if you are looking to follow live tweets on particular issues:</p>
<div id="fullcontent">
<h4>Schedule</h4>
<p><!-- 	li {list-style: none;} --></p>
<h5>Tuesday, October 6</h5>
<ul>
<li><strong>5:00 p.m.</strong> Ed Stetzer: Denominationalism: Is There a Future?</li>
<li><strong>6:00 p.m.</strong> Dinner</li>
<li><strong>7:00 p.m.</strong> Jim Patterson: Reflections on 400 Years of the Baptist Movement: Who We Are. What We Believe.</li>
</ul>
<h5>Wednesday, October 7</h5>
<ul>
<li><strong>Continental Breakfast</strong></li>
<li><strong>8:30 a.m.</strong> Harry L. Poe: The Gospel and Its Meaning: Implications for Southern Baptists and Evangelicals</li>
<li><strong>10:00 a.m.</strong> Timothy George: Baptists and Their Relations with Other Christians (G. M. Savage Chapel)</li>
<li><strong>Noon</strong> Luncheon Address &#8211; Duane Litfin: The Future of American Evangelicalism</li>
<li><strong>2:00 p.m.</strong> Ray Van Neste: The Oversight of Souls: Pastoral Ministry in Southern Baptist and Evangelical Life</li>
<li><strong>Afternoon and dinner on your own</strong></li>
<li><strong>7:00 p.m.</strong> Corporate Worship: Robert Smith, preaching, (G. M. Savage Chapel)</li>
</ul>
<h5>Thursday, October 8</h5>
<ul>
<li><strong>Continental Breakfast</strong></li>
<li><strong>8:30 a.m.</strong> Mark DeVine: Emergent or Emerging: Questions for Southern Baptists and North American Evangelicals</li>
<li><strong>10:00 a.m.</strong> Daniel Akin: The Future of the Southern Baptist Convention</li>
<li><strong>Noon</strong> Luncheon Address &#8211; Michael Lindsay: Denominationalism and the Changing Religious Landscape in North America</li>
<li><strong>2:00 p.m.</strong> Jerry Tidwell: Missions and Evangelism: Awakenings and Their Influence on Southern Baptists and Evangelicals</li>
<li><strong>6:00 p.m.</strong> Banquet</li>
<li><strong>7:00 p.m.</strong> David S. Dockery: So Many Denominations: The Rise and Decline of Denominationalism and the Shaping of a Global Evangelicalism</li>
</ul>
<h5>Friday, October 9</h5>
<ul>
<li><strong>Continental Breakfast</strong></li>
<li><strong>8:30 a.m.</strong> Nathan Finn: Southern Baptists and Evangelicals: Passing on the Faith to the Next Generation</li>
<li><strong>10:00 a.m.</strong> R. Albert Mohler, Jr.: Southern Baptists, Evangelicals, and the Future of Denominationalism (G. M. Savage Chapel)</li>
</ul>
</div>
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<p>*There is one caveat.  I am also dealing with a great many things personal and professional while on this trip.  I am not guaranteeing that I will be at every session to tweet/blog.  I fully intend to be at the ones I perceive as most relevant.  This is not to discount any of the speakers or their topics, but to simply let everyone know that other things may take precedence for me.</p>
<img src="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/eadd809f/266bb3ef/CCBot/1.0 (+http://www.commoncrawl.org/bot.html).gif" /><hr /><h2>Comments</h2><ul><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/10/05/the-future-of-denominationalism-schedule/">October 6, 2009</a>, Vicki writes: Wow, I'm excited for you.  I wish Bart and I could hear some of the speakers and their topics, especially Ed's.  Can't wait for your reports.  Be safe.</li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/10/05/the-future-of-denominationalism-schedule/">October 7, 2009</a>, <a href='http://iemissional.com' rel='external nofollow' class='url'>Marty Duren</a> writes: I hear you have a studly room mate.</li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/10/05/the-future-of-denominationalism-schedule/">October 7, 2009</a>, <a href='http://twelvewitnesses.com' rel='external nofollow' class='url'>art rogers</a> writes: Who told you that? Sonya? She's partial.</li></ul><hr /><h2>Related posts:</h2><ul><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/10/02/the-future-of-denominations/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: The future of denominations">The future of denominations</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2007/02/15/frank-page-union-university-baptist-identity-conference/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Baptist Identity Pt. 1">Baptist Identity Pt. 1</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/10/07/ed-stetzer-and-the-future-of-denominations/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Ed Stetzer and the Future of Denominations">Ed Stetzer and the Future of Denominations</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/07/09/church-staffing-mixed-matched-by-malcolm-gladwell/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Church Staffing:  Mis-Matched by Malcolm Gladwell">Church Staffing:  Mis-Matched by Malcolm Gladwell</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2006/02/10/this-weekend/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: This weekend&#8230;">This weekend&#8230;</a></li></ul><hr /><small>Copyright &copy; Art Rogers|12 Witnesses 2008<br /> This feed is for personal, non-commercial use only. <br /> The use of this feed on other websites breaches copyright. If this content is not in your news reader, it makes the page you are viewing an infringement of the copyright. If you suspect copyright infringement, please contact legal@twelvewitnesses.com.  Thanks.  (Digital Fingerprint:<br /> 4fb9806df94a8f093ce1b84a21d62535 (38.107.179.239) )</small>
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		<title>The future of denominations</title>
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		<dc:creator>art rogers</dc:creator>
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<p>Next week, Union University will be hosting a conference entitled Southern Baptists, Evangelicals and the future of denominationalism.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m excited to be attending for several reasons, not the least of which is that the topic fascinates me.  I am anxious to hear the thoughts of those being brought in to speak to the issue.</p>
<p>Further, the SBC finds itself in the moment of re-creating itself via the Great Commission Task Force and its impending report in Orlando next year at the Annual Meeting.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be blogging and twittering from the meeting, but as a primer for that time, I thought that you might be interested in these videos from the B21 Panel at last year&#8217;s annual meeting, where the hot topics of the Southern Baptist Convention were discussed by some of the leading voices.</p>
<p>The first video says it&#8217;s 80 minutes, but it is only about 40.  Total of both videos is about an hour and 20 minutes.</p>
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<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/5437640">B21 Panel From 2009 SBC Annual Meeting</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/sojourn">Sojourn Community Church</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/5541084">B21 Panel from SBC Annual Meeting Part 2</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/sebts">Southeastern Seminary</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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<p>Next week, Union University will be hosting a conference entitled Southern Baptists, Evangelicals and the future of denominationalism.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m excited to be attending for several reasons, not the least of which is that the topic fascinates me.  I am anxious to hear the thoughts of those being brought in to speak to the issue.</p>
<p>Further, the SBC finds itself in the moment of re-creating itself via the Great Commission Task Force and its impending report in Orlando next year at the Annual Meeting.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be blogging and twittering from the meeting, but as a primer for that time, I thought that you might be interested in these videos from the B21 Panel at last year&#8217;s annual meeting, where the hot topics of the Southern Baptist Convention were discussed by some of the leading voices.</p>
<p>The first video says it&#8217;s 80 minutes, but it is only about 40.  Total of both videos is about an hour and 20 minutes.</p>
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<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/5437640">B21 Panel From 2009 SBC Annual Meeting</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/sojourn">Sojourn Community Church</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/5541084">B21 Panel from SBC Annual Meeting Part 2</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/sebts">Southeastern Seminary</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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		<title>GCR Task Force Listening Luncheon</title>
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		<dc:creator>art rogers</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><img class="size-full wp-image-1783 alignleft" title="GCR Task Force" src="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/GCR-Task-Force.jpg" alt="GCR Task Force" width="300" height="225" />If you had told me 3 years ago that I would be sitting, at Ronnie Floyd&#8217;s invitation, in his church listening to him, Johnny Hunt and Al Mohler talk about the SBC as being in decline and the need for us to deconstruct that which is complex and bulky to get to what is efficient in accomplishing God&#8217;s Mission &#8211; I would have thought you insane.</p>
<p>But there I sat, front and center, listening to them say some of the things I had been thinking for years.  Even taking some hits from some dude channelling the spirit of Roger Moran until interrupted and chastised by both Hunt and Floyd, being further corrected by Mohler.</p>
<p>How did I get here?  Am I dreaming?</p>
<p>Some will complain that these guys are just classic middle adopters, attempting to lead from the middle.  Others will say that they&#8217;ve offered nothing new.  I&#8217;ve heard others say they are simple politicians, finding the flow of the crowd and getting out in front.</p>
<p>Those things may be.  I can&#8217;t tell you, but you see, the thing about a middle adopter is, he&#8217;s adopted.</p>
<p>These guys seemed pretty genuine to me.  If not, time will tell.  The telling of their sincerity will be in Orlando and it is something for which they asked.  Judge us by Orlando.</p>
<p>Fair enough!</p>
<p>Before I quit blogging about the SBC, I said that if the statesmen of the SBC stood against the wall while I stood to the mic, then the SBC will fall away into decline and there would be no stopping it.</p>
<p>The big deal about the principles and ideas being put forth by the GCRTF is that those speaking are not on the fringe of power within the SBC, but they are the leaders and statesmen.</p>
<p>About time.  Well done.  Thank God.</p>
<img src="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/eadd809f/266bb3ef/CCBot/1.0 (+http://www.commoncrawl.org/bot.html).gif" /><hr /><h2>Comments</h2><ul><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/08/27/gcr-task-force-listening-luncheon/">August 27, 2009</a>, Michael writes: If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.  2 Chronicles 7:14

May it be so in our convention leadership but may it be more so in the pews of our local churches.</li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/08/27/gcr-task-force-listening-luncheon/">August 27, 2009</a>, Gary writes: Michael: Amen!</li></ul><hr /><h2>Related posts:</h2><ul><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/08/26/gcr-task-force-listening-luncheon-today/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: GCR Task Force Listening Luncheon Today">GCR Task Force Listening Luncheon Today</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/08/28/gcr-task-force-listening-luncheon-videos/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: GCR Task Force Listening Luncheon Videos">GCR Task Force Listening Luncheon Videos</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/08/05/the-great-commission-resurgence-missioscapes-and-partnering-with-the-unholy/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: The Great Commission Resurgence, MissioScapes and Partnering with the Unholy">The Great Commission Resurgence, MissioScapes and Partnering with the Unholy</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2010/02/23/deconstruction-yes/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Transitions: Deconstruction&#8230; Yes">Transitions: Deconstruction&#8230; Yes</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/08/24/so-ive-decided-to-be-a-blogger/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: So I&#8217;ve decided to be a blogger">So I&#8217;ve decided to be a blogger</a></li></ul><hr /><small>Copyright &copy; Art Rogers|12 Witnesses 2008<br /> This feed is for personal, non-commercial use only. <br /> The use of this feed on other websites breaches copyright. If this content is not in your news reader, it makes the page you are viewing an infringement of the copyright. If you suspect copyright infringement, please contact legal@twelvewitnesses.com.  Thanks.  (Digital Fingerprint:<br /> 4fb9806df94a8f093ce1b84a21d62535 (38.107.179.239) )</small>
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</span><p><img class="size-full wp-image-1783 alignleft" title="GCR Task Force" src="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/GCR-Task-Force.jpg" alt="GCR Task Force" width="300" height="225" />If you had told me 3 years ago that I would be sitting, at Ronnie Floyd&#8217;s invitation, in his church listening to him, Johnny Hunt and Al Mohler talk about the SBC as being in decline and the need for us to deconstruct that which is complex and bulky to get to what is efficient in accomplishing God&#8217;s Mission &#8211; I would have thought you insane.</p>
<p>But there I sat, front and center, listening to them say some of the things I had been thinking for years.  Even taking some hits from some dude channelling the spirit of Roger Moran until interrupted and chastised by both Hunt and Floyd, being further corrected by Mohler.</p>
<p>How did I get here?  Am I dreaming?</p>
<p>Some will complain that these guys are just classic middle adopters, attempting to lead from the middle.  Others will say that they&#8217;ve offered nothing new.  I&#8217;ve heard others say they are simple politicians, finding the flow of the crowd and getting out in front.</p>
<p>Those things may be.  I can&#8217;t tell you, but you see, the thing about a middle adopter is, he&#8217;s adopted.</p>
<p>These guys seemed pretty genuine to me.  If not, time will tell.  The telling of their sincerity will be in Orlando and it is something for which they asked.  Judge us by Orlando.</p>
<p>Fair enough!</p>
<p>Before I quit blogging about the SBC, I said that if the statesmen of the SBC stood against the wall while I stood to the mic, then the SBC will fall away into decline and there would be no stopping it.</p>
<p>The big deal about the principles and ideas being put forth by the GCRTF is that those speaking are not on the fringe of power within the SBC, but they are the leaders and statesmen.</p>
<p>About time.  Well done.  Thank God.</p>
<img src="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/eadd809f/266bb3ef/CCBot/1.0 (+http://www.commoncrawl.org/bot.html).gif" /><hr /><h2>Comments</h2><ul><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/08/27/gcr-task-force-listening-luncheon/">August 27, 2009</a>, Michael writes: If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.  2 Chronicles 7:14

May it be so in our convention leadership but may it be more so in the pews of our local churches.</li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/08/27/gcr-task-force-listening-luncheon/">August 27, 2009</a>, Gary writes: Michael: Amen!</li></ul><hr /><h2>Related posts:</h2><ul><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/08/26/gcr-task-force-listening-luncheon-today/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: GCR Task Force Listening Luncheon Today">GCR Task Force Listening Luncheon Today</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/08/28/gcr-task-force-listening-luncheon-videos/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: GCR Task Force Listening Luncheon Videos">GCR Task Force Listening Luncheon Videos</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/08/05/the-great-commission-resurgence-missioscapes-and-partnering-with-the-unholy/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: The Great Commission Resurgence, MissioScapes and Partnering with the Unholy">The Great Commission Resurgence, MissioScapes and Partnering with the Unholy</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2010/02/23/deconstruction-yes/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Transitions: Deconstruction&#8230; Yes">Transitions: Deconstruction&#8230; Yes</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/08/24/so-ive-decided-to-be-a-blogger/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: So I&#8217;ve decided to be a blogger">So I&#8217;ve decided to be a blogger</a></li></ul><hr /><small>Copyright &copy; Art Rogers|12 Witnesses 2008<br /> This feed is for personal, non-commercial use only. <br /> The use of this feed on other websites breaches copyright. If this content is not in your news reader, it makes the page you are viewing an infringement of the copyright. If you suspect copyright infringement, please contact legal@twelvewitnesses.com.  Thanks.  (Digital Fingerprint:<br /> 4fb9806df94a8f093ce1b84a21d62535 (38.107.179.239) )</small>
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		<title>GCR Task Force Listening Luncheon Today</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I&#8217;m going.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if I&#8217;ll bother live blogging, but I might tweet.</p>
<p>If you are interested follow<a title="Twitter|Art Rogers" href="http://twitter.com/artrogers" target="_blank"> my twitter</a> or the <a title="Twitter|MissioScapes" href="http://twitter.com/missioscapes" target="_blank">MissioScapes twitter</a> feeds.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll probably write a post event perspective for later in the week.</p>
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</span><p>Yep, I&#8217;m going.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if I&#8217;ll bother live blogging, but I might tweet.</p>
<p>If you are interested follow<a title="Twitter|Art Rogers" href="http://twitter.com/artrogers" target="_blank"> my twitter</a> or the <a title="Twitter|MissioScapes" href="http://twitter.com/missioscapes" target="_blank">MissioScapes twitter</a> feeds.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll probably write a post event perspective for later in the week.</p>
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		<title>David Fitch on Missional Orders as Church Planting</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 05:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>art rogers</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Missional pastor/author/speaker/blogger <a title="Reclaiming the Mission|David Fitch" href="http://www.reclaimingthemission.com/" target="_blank">David Fitch</a> speaks to the difference between Church Planting in the Post Christendom era that America is now in and strikes the contrast against the way it was once done when the Kingdom of Christ was perceived to overlap the kingdom of men in a more substantial way than today &#8211; just a few short decades ago.</p>
<p>Interesting to note early on his commentary about the perception of America Culture by American Christians and how it varies from region to region.</p>
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<a href="http://vimeo.com/2480503">Dave Fitch &#8211; the Cultivate Talk on Missional Orders</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user643124">Bill Kinnon</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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I know you know that as far back as three, three and a half decades ago some guys and their wives were starting churches in this same manner. They had no support from anyone. As a matter of fact certain entities of established "order" worked against them "just starting a church" without proper support and "guidance" from those who actually "know what they are doing."

The point of my comment is; Now it seems a lot of folks are just now catching up to what some old guys were doing long ago with even less support than is available today due to a larger group being of a like mind.

Starting a church should always be based solely on the call of God and nothing else. And, you don't even have to survive. You just have to be faithful.

Art, I know you already know all of this. I just have not commented over here in a while and I wanted you to know I am still alive and rockin' on:-)

You and your family have a great Christmas. May your hearts have joy and your souls know peace as you live out the faith before the flock to which you have been assigned by Christ who has come to atone for our sin.

Merry Christmas, Pal.

In Christ Free,
cb

<abbr><em>cb scotts last blog post..<a href="http://cbscottreport.blogspot.com/2008/12/lord-is-my-shepherd.html" rel="nofollow">THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD??</a></abbr></em></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/12/18/david-fitch-on-missional-orders-as-church-planting/">December 18, 2008</a>, <a href='http://twelvewitnesses.com' rel='external nofollow' class='url'>art rogers</a> writes: CB,

I agree with your assessment of the way things were playing out 30+ years ago - especially from the "know the 'right' way" crowd.

Also, I am glad that people are figuring out that it is for the Kingdom and our King that we do the work, not anyone or anything else.  That's a very good thing.

Thank you for your blessings on me, my family and my church.  I pray that you, Karen and those precious children have a wonderful season and that God continues to pour out His blessings on all of you and your flock.

Art</li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/12/18/david-fitch-on-missional-orders-as-church-planting/">January 7, 2009</a>, <a href='http://www.newdayaurora.com' rel='external nofollow' class='url'>Dennis Gorton</a> writes: Dave--have not seen you in many years. May be Lombard was the last time. I am 10 years senior to you expereincing the same things in Denver metro area. Key--"a way of life together that is Jesus in our world". We are not planting churches but embedding transformational Christ following communities in our communities.

Tough to do at 60 when your whole life has been in professional ministry but can we afford not to?</li></ul><hr /><h2>Related posts:</h2><ul><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/12/16/missional-non-conference-with-david-fitch/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Missional Non-Conference with David Fitch">Missional Non-Conference with David Fitch</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/01/12/great-missional-conversation-between-stetzer-and-fitch/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Great Missional Conversation between Stetzer and Fitch">Great Missional Conversation between Stetzer and Fitch</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/11/03/ed-stetzer-david-fitch/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Ed Stetzer &#038; David Fitch">Ed Stetzer &#038; David Fitch</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/10/07/some-missional-thoughts-from-david-phillips/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Some Missional thoughts from David Phillips">Some Missional thoughts from David Phillips</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2010/10/28/church-planting-in-3-minutes/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Church planting in 3 minutes">Church planting in 3 minutes</a></li></ul><hr /><small>Copyright &copy; Art Rogers|12 Witnesses 2008<br /> This feed is for personal, non-commercial use only. <br /> The use of this feed on other websites breaches copyright. If this content is not in your news reader, it makes the page you are viewing an infringement of the copyright. If you suspect copyright infringement, please contact legal@twelvewitnesses.com.  Thanks.  (Digital Fingerprint:<br /> 4fb9806df94a8f093ce1b84a21d62535 (38.107.179.239) )</small>
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</span><p>Missional pastor/author/speaker/blogger <a title="Reclaiming the Mission|David Fitch" href="http://www.reclaimingthemission.com/" target="_blank">David Fitch</a> speaks to the difference between Church Planting in the Post Christendom era that America is now in and strikes the contrast against the way it was once done when the Kingdom of Christ was perceived to overlap the kingdom of men in a more substantial way than today &#8211; just a few short decades ago.</p>
<p>Interesting to note early on his commentary about the perception of America Culture by American Christians and how it varies from region to region.</p>
<p><object width="400" height="225" data="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=2480503&amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portrait=0&amp;color=&amp;fullscreen=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="src" value="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=2480503&amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portrait=0&amp;color=&amp;fullscreen=1" /></object><br />
<a href="http://vimeo.com/2480503">Dave Fitch &#8211; the Cultivate Talk on Missional Orders</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user643124">Bill Kinnon</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
<img src="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/eadd809f/266bb3ef/CCBot/1.0 (+http://www.commoncrawl.org/bot.html).gif" /><hr /><h2>Comments</h2><ul><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/12/18/david-fitch-on-missional-orders-as-church-planting/">December 18, 2008</a>, <a href='http://cbscottreport.blogspot.com' rel='external nofollow' class='url'>cb scott</a> writes: Art,

I know you know that as far back as three, three and a half decades ago some guys and their wives were starting churches in this same manner. They had no support from anyone. As a matter of fact certain entities of established "order" worked against them "just starting a church" without proper support and "guidance" from those who actually "know what they are doing."

The point of my comment is; Now it seems a lot of folks are just now catching up to what some old guys were doing long ago with even less support than is available today due to a larger group being of a like mind.

Starting a church should always be based solely on the call of God and nothing else. And, you don't even have to survive. You just have to be faithful.

Art, I know you already know all of this. I just have not commented over here in a while and I wanted you to know I am still alive and rockin' on:-)

You and your family have a great Christmas. May your hearts have joy and your souls know peace as you live out the faith before the flock to which you have been assigned by Christ who has come to atone for our sin.

Merry Christmas, Pal.

In Christ Free,
cb

<abbr><em>cb scotts last blog post..<a href="http://cbscottreport.blogspot.com/2008/12/lord-is-my-shepherd.html" rel="nofollow">THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD??</a></abbr></em></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/12/18/david-fitch-on-missional-orders-as-church-planting/">December 18, 2008</a>, <a href='http://twelvewitnesses.com' rel='external nofollow' class='url'>art rogers</a> writes: CB,

I agree with your assessment of the way things were playing out 30+ years ago - especially from the "know the 'right' way" crowd.

Also, I am glad that people are figuring out that it is for the Kingdom and our King that we do the work, not anyone or anything else.  That's a very good thing.

Thank you for your blessings on me, my family and my church.  I pray that you, Karen and those precious children have a wonderful season and that God continues to pour out His blessings on all of you and your flock.

Art</li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/12/18/david-fitch-on-missional-orders-as-church-planting/">January 7, 2009</a>, <a href='http://www.newdayaurora.com' rel='external nofollow' class='url'>Dennis Gorton</a> writes: Dave--have not seen you in many years. May be Lombard was the last time. I am 10 years senior to you expereincing the same things in Denver metro area. Key--"a way of life together that is Jesus in our world". We are not planting churches but embedding transformational Christ following communities in our communities.

Tough to do at 60 when your whole life has been in professional ministry but can we afford not to?</li></ul><hr /><h2>Related posts:</h2><ul><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/12/16/missional-non-conference-with-david-fitch/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Missional Non-Conference with David Fitch">Missional Non-Conference with David Fitch</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/01/12/great-missional-conversation-between-stetzer-and-fitch/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Great Missional Conversation between Stetzer and Fitch">Great Missional Conversation between Stetzer and Fitch</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/11/03/ed-stetzer-david-fitch/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Ed Stetzer &#038; David Fitch">Ed Stetzer &#038; David Fitch</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/10/07/some-missional-thoughts-from-david-phillips/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Some Missional thoughts from David Phillips">Some Missional thoughts from David Phillips</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2010/10/28/church-planting-in-3-minutes/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Church planting in 3 minutes">Church planting in 3 minutes</a></li></ul><hr /><small>Copyright &copy; Art Rogers|12 Witnesses 2008<br /> This feed is for personal, non-commercial use only. <br /> The use of this feed on other websites breaches copyright. If this content is not in your news reader, it makes the page you are viewing an infringement of the copyright. If you suspect copyright infringement, please contact legal@twelvewitnesses.com.  Thanks.  (Digital Fingerprint:<br /> 4fb9806df94a8f093ce1b84a21d62535 (38.107.179.239) )</small>
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		<title>Missional Non-Conference with David Fitch</title>
		<link>http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/12/16/missional-non-conference-with-david-fitch/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>art rogers</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>David Fitch has announced a Missional Non-Conference (no fees, no one selling anything) in Ft. Wayne, Indiana January 3.</p>
<p>If you are interested in attending, he&#8217;d like for you to email.  You can get more information at David&#8217;s blog:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reclaimingthemission.com/2008/12/announcing-missional-nonconference.html">Missional Non-Conference</a>.</p>
<img src="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/eadd809f/266bb3ef/CCBot/1.0 (+http://www.commoncrawl.org/bot.html).gif" /><hr /><h2>Comments</h2><ul><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/12/16/missional-non-conference-with-david-fitch/">December 17, 2008</a>, <a href='http://relevintage.com' rel='external nofollow' class='url'>brad andrews</a> writes: art,
dave is one of my faves.  i am going to go to one of these in the future.  can't justify it right after christmas.  too bad tulsa is further from chicago than st. louis.  maybe you, clint, and i can take a trip up there in the future.  that would be rad!

<abbr><em>brad andrewss last blog post..<a href="http://transformission.com/extractd-16/" rel="nofollow">extract’d</a></abbr></em></li></ul><hr /><h2>Related posts:</h2><ul><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/12/18/david-fitch-on-missional-orders-as-church-planting/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: David Fitch on Missional Orders as Church Planting">David Fitch on Missional Orders as Church Planting</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/01/12/great-missional-conversation-between-stetzer-and-fitch/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Great Missional Conversation between Stetzer and Fitch">Great Missional Conversation between Stetzer and Fitch</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/11/03/ed-stetzer-david-fitch/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Ed Stetzer &#038; David Fitch">Ed Stetzer &#038; David Fitch</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/10/07/some-missional-thoughts-from-david-phillips/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Some Missional thoughts from David Phillips">Some Missional thoughts from David Phillips</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2007/01/29/dr-david-dockery-timmy-brister-southern-baptist-convention/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Dr. Dockery Interview and Live Blog">Dr. Dockery Interview and Live Blog</a></li></ul><hr /><small>Copyright &copy; Art Rogers|12 Witnesses 2008<br /> This feed is for personal, non-commercial use only. <br /> The use of this feed on other websites breaches copyright. If this content is not in your news reader, it makes the page you are viewing an infringement of the copyright. If you suspect copyright infringement, please contact legal@twelvewitnesses.com.  Thanks.  (Digital Fingerprint:<br /> 4fb9806df94a8f093ce1b84a21d62535 (38.107.179.239) )</small>
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</span><p>David Fitch has announced a Missional Non-Conference (no fees, no one selling anything) in Ft. Wayne, Indiana January 3.</p>
<p>If you are interested in attending, he&#8217;d like for you to email.  You can get more information at David&#8217;s blog:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reclaimingthemission.com/2008/12/announcing-missional-nonconference.html">Missional Non-Conference</a>.</p>
<img src="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/eadd809f/266bb3ef/CCBot/1.0 (+http://www.commoncrawl.org/bot.html).gif" /><hr /><h2>Comments</h2><ul><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/12/16/missional-non-conference-with-david-fitch/">December 17, 2008</a>, <a href='http://relevintage.com' rel='external nofollow' class='url'>brad andrews</a> writes: art,
dave is one of my faves.  i am going to go to one of these in the future.  can't justify it right after christmas.  too bad tulsa is further from chicago than st. louis.  maybe you, clint, and i can take a trip up there in the future.  that would be rad!

<abbr><em>brad andrewss last blog post..<a href="http://transformission.com/extractd-16/" rel="nofollow">extract’d</a></abbr></em></li></ul><hr /><h2>Related posts:</h2><ul><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/12/18/david-fitch-on-missional-orders-as-church-planting/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: David Fitch on Missional Orders as Church Planting">David Fitch on Missional Orders as Church Planting</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/01/12/great-missional-conversation-between-stetzer-and-fitch/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Great Missional Conversation between Stetzer and Fitch">Great Missional Conversation between Stetzer and Fitch</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/11/03/ed-stetzer-david-fitch/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Ed Stetzer &#038; David Fitch">Ed Stetzer &#038; David Fitch</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/10/07/some-missional-thoughts-from-david-phillips/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Some Missional thoughts from David Phillips">Some Missional thoughts from David Phillips</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2007/01/29/dr-david-dockery-timmy-brister-southern-baptist-convention/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Dr. Dockery Interview and Live Blog">Dr. Dockery Interview and Live Blog</a></li></ul><hr /><small>Copyright &copy; Art Rogers|12 Witnesses 2008<br /> This feed is for personal, non-commercial use only. <br /> The use of this feed on other websites breaches copyright. If this content is not in your news reader, it makes the page you are viewing an infringement of the copyright. If you suspect copyright infringement, please contact legal@twelvewitnesses.com.  Thanks.  (Digital Fingerprint:<br /> 4fb9806df94a8f093ce1b84a21d62535 (38.107.179.239) )</small>
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		<title>Simple Church 2</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>art rogers</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Geiger is paralleling the shutting down of Starbucks for three hours in the middle of the week &#8211; all stores nationwide &#8211; to retrain the employees on how to brew great coffee.  They had gotten so diverse that they had forgotten the main thing.  They also have cut out all breakfast sandwiches because they compete with the smell of the coffee.</p>
<p>Does your church look more like <a title="yahoo.com" href="http://yahoo.com" target="_blank">yahoo (homepage)</a> which is busy or <a title="google.com" href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google (homepage)</a> which is simple and clean.  Is it more distracting with a million things offering the next greatest thing or simplicity that allows you to focus on why you came there.</p>
<p>He reads a letter from the Yahoo CEO in response to a critique from a newpaper.  Simply put, he says that they lack a cohesive vision.  We try to do so much that we do nothing well.  You can search for it.  It&#8217;s called the <a title="Peanut Butter Manifesto - yahoo" href="http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB116379821933826657-0mbjXoHnQwDMFH_PVeb_jqe3Chk_20061125.html" target="_blank">Peanut Butter Manifesto from Yahoo</a>.</p>
<p><a title="Matt 16:13-19" href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matt%2016:13-19&amp;version=77" target="_blank">Matthew 16:13-19</a></p>
<p>Peter, you are the petros (little rock) and on this huge rock (petra &#8211; assume Christ is the big rock) I will build my church and &#8230; our programming is going to be awesome!!!  You see the point.</p>
<p>The church is to be a driving force that would break through the gates of hell, but we aren&#8217;t seeing that in North America.</p>
<p>Doing the research in Southern Baptist Church the original parameters for a growing church were to be 10% growth for 3 consecutive years, but there were only 117 churches that fit into that group and it wasn&#8217;t enough for a solid sample.  They had to back down the parameters to 5% growth for 3 consecutive years just to get a sample.</p>
<p>The perception was that the churches that were really growing were the ones that were more simple and not those that were trying to do everything.</p>
<p>The research turned out to be outstandingly reliable that the observation was correct.  It was verifiable at the .001 level, which is super accurate.</p>
<p>A Simple Church is a congregation that is designed around a straightforward and strategic process that moves people through the stages of spiritual growth.</p>
<p>The keyword is not &#8220;simple&#8221; but &#8220;process.&#8221;  You can&#8217;t simply eliminate stuff, though.  You have to start with your process and find what you need to begin to reduce.  It is not a model.  You get a simple and clean process.</p>
<h4>4 keys to a clear and simple process</h4>
<h5>Clarity   <a title="1 3:9-14" href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20cor%203:9-14;&amp;version=77;" target="_blank">1 Cor 3:9-11, 14</a></h5>
<p>1.  I am God&#8217;s builder. Eph 4:11-12</p>
<p>2.  Building the body of Christ is an Ongoing Process. Col 2:6-7</p>
<p>3.  Our ministry needs a clear ministry blueprint.</p>
<p>4.  I must ensure there is a clear &#8220;How&#8221;.</p>
<h6>5 Essentials</h6>
<p>1.  Define your process &#8211; a) Determine what kind of disciple you wish to make.  Narrow the list as much as possible. b) Describe your purpose as a process.  (Place your key words in order.)  c) Decide how each weekly program is a part of your process. (If it is not a part of the process, then reduce. It is sideways energy.  Anytime you have stuff in addition to your core process, you are competing with yourself.  When you say yes to the side stuff, you say no to the main stuff.)</p>
<p>2.  Illustrate your process.  The illustration must show progression.</p>
<p>3.  Measure your process.  a) What gets measured gets done. (Measure quarterly not weekly) b) View numbers horizontally and not vertically.  (Vertical numbers are measured through the lens of the program &#8211; x in Awanas last year, and y this year.  Horizontally is measured in the process, not the program.  Example:  35% growth in worship and 10% growth in small groups would look like a success in small group growth if measured vertically.  Horizontal measurement reveals that not all the growth in moving through the process.)  c) Measure each stage in your process.</p>
<p>4.  Discuss your process</p>
<p>5.  Increase understanding. a) Articulate corporately b) Share interpresonally c) Live personally (whatever vision you seek to impart &#8211; you have to live it.  Be a tour guide and not a travel agent.  Go on the journey with them.)</p>
<h4>Movement in a Simple Church 2 Cor 3:14, 17-18</h4>
<p>We are not like Moses who hid a faded glory behind a veil, because we never leave the mountain.  God is always with us.  The glory is not decreasing, but increasing.</p>
<p>1.  Only God can transform.</p>
<p>2.  Spiritual transformation moves people to greater levels of commitment.</p>
<p>3.  Our ministry must place people in the pathway of God&#8217;s transforming power.</p>
<p>4.  I must design a process that partners with God to move people through the process of spiritual growth.</p>
<h6>Five Prescriptions to Remove Congestion</h6>
<p>1.  Strategic programming.  a) Begin with your clearly defined process. b) Choose <strong>one program</strong> for each phase of your process. c) Design each program for the specific aspect of the process.</p>
<p>2. Sequential programming.  a) Order the sequence to reflect your process b) Designate a clear entry point.  c) Identify next level programming</p>
<p>3. Intentional Movement  a) Create short term steps b) Capitalize on relationships c) Consider the &#8220;Now what?&#8221; d) Connect people to groups</p>
<p>4. Clear next step for new believers  a) New believers are the greatest evangelistic resource &#8211; they still know lost people. b) What is our strategy to move new believers?</p>
<p>5.  New members&#8217; class  a) Structure the class curriculum around your process &#8211; teach through it b) Ask for a commitment to the simple process</p>
<h4>Alignment</h4>
<p>1.  Unity reflects the nature of God</p>
<p>2. Unity is attractive</p>
<p>3.  God is passionate for our unity</p>
<p>4.  I must align people around our simple process</p>
<p>*disagreement most often happens over methodology.</p>
<h6>5 Essentials to Alignment</h6>
<p>1.  Recruit on the process a)look for philosophical alignment, not just theological alignment b) look for a similar ministry approach, not just a similar doctrine</p>
<p>2.  Offer accountability a) Job descriptions should be tied to the simple process b) Individual ministry goals should be aligned to the overall church direction and ministry process</p>
<p>3.  Implement the same process everywhere a) Understanding is increased b) Unity is promoted as silos are eliminated c) Families experience the same process</p>
<p>4.  Unite people around the process  a)Remind people of the process b)highlight contributions to the fulfillment of the process</p>
<p>5.  Align new ministries</p>
<h4>Focus</h4>
<p>1.  The tools for worship can become the objects of our worship.</p>
<p>2.  God applauds the removal of anything that hinders spiritual transformation.</p>
<p>3.  Programs can become an end in themselves instead of a means to an end.</p>
<p>4.  I must focus our energy, resources, and attention on the process God has given our church.</p>
<p>*Once you have it &#8211; stay focused on it.</p>
<h6>5 Essentials to Focus</h6>
<p>1.  Eliminate non-essential programs.  a) Elimination is a matter of stewardship of money b) Elimination is a matter of stewardship of time</p>
<p>2.  Limit adding programs a) Use existing essential programs for special emphases b) Less is more c) Limit adding programs, not options (multiple worship services)</p>
<p>3.  Reduce special events (competes with the essential) a) Funnel the event into an existing program b) Combine the event with an existing program c) Use the event strategically</p>
<p>4.  Ensure the process is easily communicated</p>
<p>5.  Ensure the process is simple to understand a) Choose simple language b) Be brief</p>
<p>*&#8221;I am as proud of the things we have not done as I am of the things we have done.&#8221; &#8211; Steve Jobs of Apple [Note from Art - Macheads really love that]</p>
<img src="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/eadd809f/266bb3ef/CCBot/1.0 (+http://www.commoncrawl.org/bot.html).gif" /><hr /><h2>Comments</h2><ul><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/09/19/simple-church-2/">September 19, 2008</a>, <a href='http://www.colehedgecock.blogspot.com' rel='external nofollow' class='url'>Cole Hedgecock</a> writes: Art,

Thanks for the notes.  Have a good day,

Cole

Cole Hedgecocks last blog post..<a href="http://colehedgecock.blogspot.com/2008/09/simply-put-its-time-to-ask-why.html" rel="nofollow">Simply Put: It's Time to Ask Why</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/09/19/simple-church-2/">September 21, 2008</a>, <a href='http://fbcatnsam.blogspot.com' rel='external nofollow' class='url'>Sam</a> writes: This bit of notes is a perfect summary of Geiger's book. You've done a wonderful job capturing the essence of his book and the theory behind simple church. Now....If the book had only been this short and the process for implementing this into a 120 year old church would be the same....

Sams last blog post..<a href="http://fbcatnsam.blogspot.com/2008/09/scot-mcnight-quote.html" rel="nofollow">Scot McNight Quote</a></li></ul><hr /><h2>Related posts:</h2><ul><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/11/03/simply-missional-article-from-ed-stetzer-and-eric-geiger/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Simply Missional Article from Ed Stetzer and Eric Geiger">Simply Missional Article from Ed Stetzer and Eric Geiger</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/09/18/eric-geigers-simple-church-conference/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Eric Geiger&#8217;s Simple Church Conference">Eric Geiger&#8217;s Simple Church Conference</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/09/19/simple-church-1/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Simple Church 1">Simple Church 1</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2007/12/06/simple-blog/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Simple Blog">Simple Blog</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2010/02/09/the-missional-church-a-short-simple-video/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: The Missional Church: A short, simple video">The Missional Church: A short, simple video</a></li></ul><hr /><small>Copyright &copy; Art Rogers|12 Witnesses 2008<br /> This feed is for personal, non-commercial use only. <br /> The use of this feed on other websites breaches copyright. If this content is not in your news reader, it makes the page you are viewing an infringement of the copyright. If you suspect copyright infringement, please contact legal@twelvewitnesses.com.  Thanks.  (Digital Fingerprint:<br /> 4fb9806df94a8f093ce1b84a21d62535 (38.107.179.239) )</small>
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</span><p>Geiger is paralleling the shutting down of Starbucks for three hours in the middle of the week &#8211; all stores nationwide &#8211; to retrain the employees on how to brew great coffee.  They had gotten so diverse that they had forgotten the main thing.  They also have cut out all breakfast sandwiches because they compete with the smell of the coffee.</p>
<p>Does your church look more like <a title="yahoo.com" href="http://yahoo.com" target="_blank">yahoo (homepage)</a> which is busy or <a title="google.com" href="http://google.com" target="_blank">google (homepage)</a> which is simple and clean.  Is it more distracting with a million things offering the next greatest thing or simplicity that allows you to focus on why you came there.</p>
<p>He reads a letter from the Yahoo CEO in response to a critique from a newpaper.  Simply put, he says that they lack a cohesive vision.  We try to do so much that we do nothing well.  You can search for it.  It&#8217;s called the <a title="Peanut Butter Manifesto - yahoo" href="http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB116379821933826657-0mbjXoHnQwDMFH_PVeb_jqe3Chk_20061125.html" target="_blank">Peanut Butter Manifesto from Yahoo</a>.</p>
<p><a title="Matt 16:13-19" href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matt%2016:13-19&amp;version=77" target="_blank">Matthew 16:13-19</a></p>
<p>Peter, you are the petros (little rock) and on this huge rock (petra &#8211; assume Christ is the big rock) I will build my church and &#8230; our programming is going to be awesome!!!  You see the point.</p>
<p>The church is to be a driving force that would break through the gates of hell, but we aren&#8217;t seeing that in North America.</p>
<p>Doing the research in Southern Baptist Church the original parameters for a growing church were to be 10% growth for 3 consecutive years, but there were only 117 churches that fit into that group and it wasn&#8217;t enough for a solid sample.  They had to back down the parameters to 5% growth for 3 consecutive years just to get a sample.</p>
<p>The perception was that the churches that were really growing were the ones that were more simple and not those that were trying to do everything.</p>
<p>The research turned out to be outstandingly reliable that the observation was correct.  It was verifiable at the .001 level, which is super accurate.</p>
<p>A Simple Church is a congregation that is designed around a straightforward and strategic process that moves people through the stages of spiritual growth.</p>
<p>The keyword is not &#8220;simple&#8221; but &#8220;process.&#8221;  You can&#8217;t simply eliminate stuff, though.  You have to start with your process and find what you need to begin to reduce.  It is not a model.  You get a simple and clean process.</p>
<h4>4 keys to a clear and simple process</h4>
<h5>Clarity   <a title="1 3:9-14" href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20cor%203:9-14;&amp;version=77;" target="_blank">1 Cor 3:9-11, 14</a></h5>
<p>1.  I am God&#8217;s builder. Eph 4:11-12</p>
<p>2.  Building the body of Christ is an Ongoing Process. Col 2:6-7</p>
<p>3.  Our ministry needs a clear ministry blueprint.</p>
<p>4.  I must ensure there is a clear &#8220;How&#8221;.</p>
<h6>5 Essentials</h6>
<p>1.  Define your process &#8211; a) Determine what kind of disciple you wish to make.  Narrow the list as much as possible. b) Describe your purpose as a process.  (Place your key words in order.)  c) Decide how each weekly program is a part of your process. (If it is not a part of the process, then reduce. It is sideways energy.  Anytime you have stuff in addition to your core process, you are competing with yourself.  When you say yes to the side stuff, you say no to the main stuff.)</p>
<p>2.  Illustrate your process.  The illustration must show progression.</p>
<p>3.  Measure your process.  a) What gets measured gets done. (Measure quarterly not weekly) b) View numbers horizontally and not vertically.  (Vertical numbers are measured through the lens of the program &#8211; x in Awanas last year, and y this year.  Horizontally is measured in the process, not the program.  Example:  35% growth in worship and 10% growth in small groups would look like a success in small group growth if measured vertically.  Horizontal measurement reveals that not all the growth in moving through the process.)  c) Measure each stage in your process.</p>
<p>4.  Discuss your process</p>
<p>5.  Increase understanding. a) Articulate corporately b) Share interpresonally c) Live personally (whatever vision you seek to impart &#8211; you have to live it.  Be a tour guide and not a travel agent.  Go on the journey with them.)</p>
<h4>Movement in a Simple Church 2 Cor 3:14, 17-18</h4>
<p>We are not like Moses who hid a faded glory behind a veil, because we never leave the mountain.  God is always with us.  The glory is not decreasing, but increasing.</p>
<p>1.  Only God can transform.</p>
<p>2.  Spiritual transformation moves people to greater levels of commitment.</p>
<p>3.  Our ministry must place people in the pathway of God&#8217;s transforming power.</p>
<p>4.  I must design a process that partners with God to move people through the process of spiritual growth.</p>
<h6>Five Prescriptions to Remove Congestion</h6>
<p>1.  Strategic programming.  a) Begin with your clearly defined process. b) Choose <strong>one program</strong> for each phase of your process. c) Design each program for the specific aspect of the process.</p>
<p>2. Sequential programming.  a) Order the sequence to reflect your process b) Designate a clear entry point.  c) Identify next level programming</p>
<p>3. Intentional Movement  a) Create short term steps b) Capitalize on relationships c) Consider the &#8220;Now what?&#8221; d) Connect people to groups</p>
<p>4. Clear next step for new believers  a) New believers are the greatest evangelistic resource &#8211; they still know lost people. b) What is our strategy to move new believers?</p>
<p>5.  New members&#8217; class  a) Structure the class curriculum around your process &#8211; teach through it b) Ask for a commitment to the simple process</p>
<h4>Alignment</h4>
<p>1.  Unity reflects the nature of God</p>
<p>2. Unity is attractive</p>
<p>3.  God is passionate for our unity</p>
<p>4.  I must align people around our simple process</p>
<p>*disagreement most often happens over methodology.</p>
<h6>5 Essentials to Alignment</h6>
<p>1.  Recruit on the process a)look for philosophical alignment, not just theological alignment b) look for a similar ministry approach, not just a similar doctrine</p>
<p>2.  Offer accountability a) Job descriptions should be tied to the simple process b) Individual ministry goals should be aligned to the overall church direction and ministry process</p>
<p>3.  Implement the same process everywhere a) Understanding is increased b) Unity is promoted as silos are eliminated c) Families experience the same process</p>
<p>4.  Unite people around the process  a)Remind people of the process b)highlight contributions to the fulfillment of the process</p>
<p>5.  Align new ministries</p>
<h4>Focus</h4>
<p>1.  The tools for worship can become the objects of our worship.</p>
<p>2.  God applauds the removal of anything that hinders spiritual transformation.</p>
<p>3.  Programs can become an end in themselves instead of a means to an end.</p>
<p>4.  I must focus our energy, resources, and attention on the process God has given our church.</p>
<p>*Once you have it &#8211; stay focused on it.</p>
<h6>5 Essentials to Focus</h6>
<p>1.  Eliminate non-essential programs.  a) Elimination is a matter of stewardship of money b) Elimination is a matter of stewardship of time</p>
<p>2.  Limit adding programs a) Use existing essential programs for special emphases b) Less is more c) Limit adding programs, not options (multiple worship services)</p>
<p>3.  Reduce special events (competes with the essential) a) Funnel the event into an existing program b) Combine the event with an existing program c) Use the event strategically</p>
<p>4.  Ensure the process is easily communicated</p>
<p>5.  Ensure the process is simple to understand a) Choose simple language b) Be brief</p>
<p>*&#8221;I am as proud of the things we have not done as I am of the things we have done.&#8221; &#8211; Steve Jobs of Apple [Note from Art - Macheads really love that]</p>
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Thanks for the notes.  Have a good day,

Cole

Cole Hedgecocks last blog post..<a href="http://colehedgecock.blogspot.com/2008/09/simply-put-its-time-to-ask-why.html" rel="nofollow">Simply Put: It's Time to Ask Why</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/09/19/simple-church-2/">September 21, 2008</a>, <a href='http://fbcatnsam.blogspot.com' rel='external nofollow' class='url'>Sam</a> writes: This bit of notes is a perfect summary of Geiger's book. You've done a wonderful job capturing the essence of his book and the theory behind simple church. Now....If the book had only been this short and the process for implementing this into a 120 year old church would be the same....

Sams last blog post..<a href="http://fbcatnsam.blogspot.com/2008/09/scot-mcnight-quote.html" rel="nofollow">Scot McNight Quote</a></li></ul><hr /><h2>Related posts:</h2><ul><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/11/03/simply-missional-article-from-ed-stetzer-and-eric-geiger/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Simply Missional Article from Ed Stetzer and Eric Geiger">Simply Missional Article from Ed Stetzer and Eric Geiger</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/09/18/eric-geigers-simple-church-conference/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Eric Geiger&#8217;s Simple Church Conference">Eric Geiger&#8217;s Simple Church Conference</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/09/19/simple-church-1/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Simple Church 1">Simple Church 1</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2007/12/06/simple-blog/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Simple Blog">Simple Blog</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2010/02/09/the-missional-church-a-short-simple-video/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: The Missional Church: A short, simple video">The Missional Church: A short, simple video</a></li></ul><hr /><small>Copyright &copy; Art Rogers|12 Witnesses 2008<br /> This feed is for personal, non-commercial use only. <br /> The use of this feed on other websites breaches copyright. If this content is not in your news reader, it makes the page you are viewing an infringement of the copyright. If you suspect copyright infringement, please contact legal@twelvewitnesses.com.  Thanks.  (Digital Fingerprint:<br /> 4fb9806df94a8f093ce1b84a21d62535 (38.107.179.239) )</small>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so I arrive at the church for the Simple Church conference and find that my camera battery is completely drained but there&#8217;s unsecured wireless internet in the sanctuary.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take it as a sign from God to live blog.  :)</p>
<p>We&#8217;re just getting set up and it looks like we&#8217;ll be starting soon.  They are graciously allowing drinks in the Worship Center, so caffeine addicts are soothed and stirring.  Geiger has his own presentation set up and they are getting it together with the screen currently present.</p>
<p>The group behind me is having a good time.</p>
<p>Cole Hedgecock, one of the least tech savvy guys I know, is setting up the projector.  I was going to type that we may be a while, but he finally got it and is welcoming us.</p>
<p>Preliminaries are done and we&#8221;ll be starting next.  Back with more in a few.</p>
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Cole Hedgecocks last blog post..<a href="http://colehedgecock.blogspot.com/2008/09/go-cubs-go.html" rel="nofollow">Go Cubs Go!</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/09/19/simple-church-1/">September 19, 2008</a>, <a href='http://twelvewitnesses.com' rel='external nofollow' class='url'>art rogers</a> writes: Yeah.  That's why it took 20 mins.  ;)</li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/09/19/simple-church-1/">September 20, 2008</a>, <a href='http://debbiekaufman.wordpress.com' rel='external nofollow' class='url'>Debbie Kaufman</a> writes: OK at the rate this live blogging is going, this should be interesting. I'm laughing too hard. :)

By the way, I'm a tech geek and I don't know how to set up a projector. Twenty minutes would be a record for me.

Debbie Kaufmans last blog post..<a href="http://debbiekaufman.wordpress.com/2008/09/20/youtube-nicole-mullen-redeemer-video/" rel="nofollow">YouTube - Nicole Mullen - Redeemer - Video</a></li></ul><hr /><h2>Related posts:</h2><ul><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/11/03/simply-missional-article-from-ed-stetzer-and-eric-geiger/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Simply Missional Article from Ed Stetzer and Eric Geiger">Simply Missional Article from Ed Stetzer and Eric Geiger</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/09/18/eric-geigers-simple-church-conference/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Eric Geiger&#8217;s Simple Church Conference">Eric Geiger&#8217;s Simple Church Conference</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2007/12/06/simple-blog/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Simple Blog">Simple Blog</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2010/02/09/the-missional-church-a-short-simple-video/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: The Missional Church: A short, simple video">The Missional Church: A short, simple video</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2007/05/02/despising-none/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link: Despising none">Despising none</a></li></ul><hr /><small>Copyright &copy; Art Rogers|12 Witnesses 2008<br /> This feed is for personal, non-commercial use only. <br /> The use of this feed on other websites breaches copyright. If this content is not in your news reader, it makes the page you are viewing an infringement of the copyright. If you suspect copyright infringement, please contact legal@twelvewitnesses.com.  Thanks.  (Digital Fingerprint:<br /> 4fb9806df94a8f093ce1b84a21d62535 (38.107.179.239) )</small>
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</span><p>Ok, so I arrive at the church for the Simple Church conference and find that my camera battery is completely drained but there&#8217;s unsecured wireless internet in the sanctuary.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take it as a sign from God to live blog.  :)</p>
<p>We&#8217;re just getting set up and it looks like we&#8217;ll be starting soon.  They are graciously allowing drinks in the Worship Center, so caffeine addicts are soothed and stirring.  Geiger has his own presentation set up and they are getting it together with the screen currently present.</p>
<p>The group behind me is having a good time.</p>
<p>Cole Hedgecock, one of the least tech savvy guys I know, is setting up the projector.  I was going to type that we may be a while, but he finally got it and is welcoming us.</p>
<p>Preliminaries are done and we&#8221;ll be starting next.  Back with more in a few.</p>
<img src="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/eadd809f/266bb3ef/CCBot/1.0 (+http://www.commoncrawl.org/bot.html).gif" /><hr /><h2>Comments</h2><ul><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/09/19/simple-church-1/">September 19, 2008</a>, <a href='http://www.colehedgecock.blogspot.com' rel='external nofollow' class='url'>Cole Hedgecock</a> writes: I may not be able to lead Nerd Day (with Art Rogers), but I do know how to set up a projector...

Cole Hedgecocks last blog post..<a href="http://colehedgecock.blogspot.com/2008/09/go-cubs-go.html" rel="nofollow">Go Cubs Go!</a></li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/09/19/simple-church-1/">September 19, 2008</a>, <a href='http://twelvewitnesses.com' rel='external nofollow' class='url'>art rogers</a> writes: Yeah.  That's why it took 20 mins.  ;)</li><li><a href="http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/09/19/simple-church-1/">September 20, 2008</a>, <a href='http://debbiekaufman.wordpress.com' rel='external nofollow' class='url'>Debbie Kaufman</a> writes: OK at the rate this live blogging is going, this should be interesting. I'm laughing too hard. :)

By the way, I'm a tech geek and I don't know how to set up a projector. Twenty minutes would be a record for me.

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