Hmm…

Well, I haven’t lost my passion for writing.  Far from it.  I really miss it.

But I have been consumed with a fascinating task – that of leading my church through a major transition.

I plan on blogging this as well – particularly the specifics of the form to which we aspire – since I think it will be relevant for the majority of those who still drop in on this blog.

The transition?  From a Sunday School/Program primary structure to a Small Group/Corporate Worship primary structure.  Which is to say that we will still have some Sunday School and some programs, but they will be secondary in the self perception, intentionality and processes of who we are.  We are looking to change our DNA.

This is opposed, you might surmise, to simply adding Small Groups as yet another program to the church in hopes that this program will be the one that revitalizes a flailing church.

Well, again, I’m going to blogging about that in the future, and it is my great passion to do so, but I haven’t had the time.  My energies have been dissipated in the various tasks involved in actually doing that thing.

PS – You could pray for us.  It is difficult to accomplish such a change and we are laboring to do a great work.  Thanks!

Has it really been 2 1/2 weeks since I last posted? And that just a video link?

Hmm…

Well, I haven’t lost my passion for writing.  Far from it.  I really miss it.

But I have been consumed with a fascinating task – that of leading my church through a major transition.

I plan on blogging this as well – particularly the specifics of the form to which we aspire – since I think it will be relevant for the majority of those who still drop in on this blog.

The transition?  From a Sunday School/Program primary structure to a Small Group/Corporate Worship primary structure.  Which is to say that we will still have some Sunday School and some programs, but they will be secondary in the self perception, intentionality and processes of who we are.  We are looking to change our DNA.

This is opposed, you might surmise, to simply adding Small Groups as yet another program to the church in hopes that this program will be the one that revitalizes a flailing church.

Well, again, I’m going to blogging about that in the future, and it is my great passion to do so, but I haven’t had the time.  My energies have been dissipated in the various tasks involved in actually doing that thing.

PS – You could pray for us.  It is difficult to accomplish such a change and we are laboring to do a great work.  Thanks!

For blogs of the full content, be sure to check out Trevin Wax and Steve Weaver.

Related posts:

• Eric Geiger’s Simple Church Conference
• Missional Non-Conference with David Fitch
• Founders Conference Preview
• BGCO – Pastor’s Conference pt 5
• June Wrap

For great info, you can follow the twitter feeds of: Marty Duren, Micah Fries, Trevin Wax and me.

For blogs of the full content, be sure to check out Trevin Wax and Steve Weaver.

Related posts:

• Eric Geiger’s Simple Church Conference
• Missional Non-Conference with David Fitch
• Founders Conference Preview
• BGCO – Pastor’s Conference pt 5
• June Wrap

But I do have several things to offer.

First, Trevin Wax is here and is ready to challenge Timmy Brister for champ of the live blog.  Here are his notes on Ed’s presentation.

Also, here is a link to the tweets I put up at the MissioScapes twitter feed.

Finally, I’d like to summarize my reaction to Ed’s super fast talking.

The gist of it all was that, yes, we will have denominations, but what they will look like has yet to be determined. Nevertheless, churches naturally will find each other and will work together if they have a passion for the Great Commission.

Still, there are benefits and burdens that go along with denominations. The burdens center around our tendency to focus on the mechanisms of our cooperation rather than our common calling.

The benefits are many and, quite frankly, are both obvious and listed in the above links.

What most struck me about the message was the forceful tone he took calling for cooperation.  This might not surprise you, but what might surprise you is that, at one point, Ed suggested that if certain people can’t get along with the rest of us, insist on attempting to run everyone else out or force us to conform, then THEY should leave the convention.

The people about whom he was speaking were obvious to the engaged SBC observer and even to the more disengaged former SBC blogger, like myself.

In terms of pointed rhetoric, Ed was somewhere between his usual provocativity and Marty Duren from back in the old days.  On the SBC spectrum of “lighting it up,” if Micah Fries is a 1 (humbly opinioned) and Ben Cole is a 10 (Shock & Awe), Ed normally resides in the middle at a happy 5.  I’d have to say that last night, Ed jumped up to 8 on a few occasions, which was kind of fun.

Especially because I agreed with him.

Had he been talking more about me (and he did from time to time) I might not have enjoyed it as much.

Related posts:

• The Future of Denominationalism Schedule
• The SBC doing things VERY well
• Baptist Identity Pt. 1
• Church Staffing: Mis-Matched by Malcolm Gladwell
• Founders Conference: Ed Stetzer

Could you tell that I’ve lost my passion for live blogging?  I’d forgotten to even write about Ed until this morning. :)

But I do have several things to offer.

First, Trevin Wax is here and is ready to challenge Timmy Brister for champ of the live blog.  Here are his notes on Ed’s presentation.

Also, here is a link to the tweets I put up at the MissioScapes twitter feed.

Finally, I’d like to summarize my reaction to Ed’s super fast talking.

The gist of it all was that, yes, we will have denominations, but what they will look like has yet to be determined. Nevertheless, churches naturally will find each other and will work together if they have a passion for the Great Commission.

Still, there are benefits and burdens that go along with denominations. The burdens center around our tendency to focus on the mechanisms of our cooperation rather than our common calling.

The benefits are many and, quite frankly, are both obvious and listed in the above links.

What most struck me about the message was the forceful tone he took calling for cooperation.  This might not surprise you, but what might surprise you is that, at one point, Ed suggested that if certain people can’t get along with the rest of us, insist on attempting to run everyone else out or force us to conform, then THEY should leave the convention.

The people about whom he was speaking were obvious to the engaged SBC observer and even to the more disengaged former SBC blogger, like myself.

In terms of pointed rhetoric, Ed was somewhere between his usual provocativity and Marty Duren from back in the old days.  On the SBC spectrum of “lighting it up,” if Micah Fries is a 1 (humbly opinioned) and Ben Cole is a 10 (Shock & Awe), Ed normally resides in the middle at a happy 5.  I’d have to say that last night, Ed jumped up to 8 on a few occasions, which was kind of fun.

Especially because I agreed with him.

Had he been talking more about me (and he did from time to time) I might not have enjoyed it as much.

Related posts:

• The Future of Denominationalism Schedule
• The SBC doing things VERY well
• Baptist Identity Pt. 1
• Church Staffing: Mis-Matched by Malcolm Gladwell
• Founders Conference: Ed Stetzer

I’m not sure if I’ll bother live blogging, but I might tweet.

If you are interested follow my twitter or the MissioScapes twitter feeds.

I’ll probably write a post event perspective for later in the week.

Related posts:

• GCR Task Force Listening Luncheon
• GCR Task Force Listening Luncheon Videos
• The Great Commission Resurgence, MissioScapes and Partnering with the Unholy
• Principal for the Day
• Transitions: Deconstruction… Yes

Yep, I’m going.

I’m not sure if I’ll bother live blogging, but I might tweet.

If you are interested follow my twitter or the MissioScapes twitter feeds.

I’ll probably write a post event perspective for later in the week.

Related posts:

• GCR Task Force Listening Luncheon
• GCR Task Force Listening Luncheon Videos
• The Great Commission Resurgence, MissioScapes and Partnering with the Unholy
• Principal for the Day
• Transitions: Deconstruction… Yes

I’ve been busy.

I know.  Life’s busy and if you’re going to be hosting your own site, then you owe it to the good folks who have come to depend on the sage advice, probing questions and stupid videos that you post to actually dispense these things.

Inquiring minds want to know.

Sorry.

I actually faced a bit of a dilemma with the whole situation.  I’ve been so busy with pastoring and then my personal life (had you heard I’ve taken up cycling?) and then my family’s personal lives (I’m now the chauffeur for … never mind.  If you know, you know and if you don’t, I don’t think I’m allowed to elaborate on the blog) that I have been too exhausted to write in the evenings when I typically craft my blog posts.

I considered shutting it down.

Some of you have heard that I have agreed to be an editor/contributor to a group blog called MissioScapes with some of the usual suspects.  In fact, my initial article dropped there last week.

I thought that my occasional post there my tide over my writing jones. Scratch the itch. But then, no. I don’t think it will.

Then, I thought I might start an entirely new blog.  An anonymous cycling blog from the eyes of a newbie cyclist.  So much uncovered territory.  So many obvious and yet unassaulted targets in the cycling community.  You have no idea.  I’m not even talking about the Lycra, either.

Still might do that, but then, maybe not.

If I’m too tired to write about the established aspects of my life, what makes me think an anonymous and yet unread cycling blog would drive me to shake off the web of slumber and expose the spandex clad, two wheeled, helmeted, free wheeling crowd to an audience that doesn’t even exist?

No.

The writing’s the thing.  It’s not the subject of the blog.  Do I want to write, and if so, will I set aside time to do it?

Yes.

I have decided that this is worth that and, frankly, it is you who have shown me that I should.

You’ve not said a word.  No notes. No comments.  No email.

But you’ve come back.  Daily for over a month with barely a word from me beyond unfulfilled promises of posts to come, you still drop in and read what I have not written.

Thanks.

And since you’ve apparently cared what I have to not say, I think you’ll be immenantly more interested in the things that I hope to say, so…

I’ve decided to be a blogger.

By that I mean not just the random thought or question but something interesting – or at least something I think is interesting – more than once a week.

There you have it.

Sorry, for the impromptu time off.  Thanks for sticking around.  See you soon.

Comments

• August 24, 2009, Gary Snowden writes: Art, Glad to hear that you've decided to stick with blogging. I'm not a very faithful writer at times either. There are long lapses of time that pass without a post, but then I'll get inspired and write 2 or 3 in quick succession. It's nice to have a venue for expressing one's thoughts, even if they are sporadic and periodic. By the way, I had a meeting with Rodney Hammer this past Thursday at the associational office and he described his initial meeting with you in Tulsa after having read your blog for some time. I suspect you have a lot of faithful readers. Blessings.
• August 24, 2009, art rogers writes: Gary, Fascinatingly, this brings up another issue. My comment email system wasn't working and I would not be notified of comments when they were left. I wasn't participating well in discussion, which hurt discussion and also hurt my own interest. Miraculously, it has fixed itself and your comment just appeared in my inbox. Amazing.
• August 24, 2009, Bob Cleveland writes: Art, It's axiomatic that the things we dream up to serve us, we eventually become enslaved to. I've felt the same thing about blogging, my ownself, but I finally decided I blog because of me. I enjoy the writing. And I don't write unless the bug, germ, spirit, whatever, bites me. I quit the choir for the same (admittedly twisted) reason. I'd been teaching 2 Sunday Schools for some months and when I finally made it to worship, they were doing a number they'd prepared for the Christmas Cantata, and I sat out that Sunday and loved being in the congregation out there in a pew. The little voice said "you can't quit .. you've been there longer than anybody but the pianist .. what will people think ..". God then convicted me that was precisely the wrong reason, and I've loved being "out there" ever since. If you want to write, write. When you don't feel like it, don't. It needn't be any more complicated than that. Besides, might a lot of those visits be from RSS readers, like mine? That's the only way I ever go to a blog any more since someone (you, as I recall...) mentioned them. (If it was you, a big thanks.) And oh, yes, I do enjoy your writing, or maybe I just enjoy hearing from a friend. Both, actually.
• August 24, 2009, Bart writes: Bumbling blogging bicyclist is becoming better at battling bumper to bumper bottlenecks and bringing boy to bashes.
• August 24, 2009, art rogers writes: Bob, I always enjoy your writing also, and good friends are like good medicine. Glad you're mine. Also, you are welcome for the rss feed reader, but no they don't show up in stats. Those are actual visits. Technology is fascinating, eh? Bart, Huh? ;)
• August 25, 2009, Vicki writes: I got it. I actually have an RSS feed to my work email. I'm not sure if we can do an RSS feed to our personal email (that I don't like). I wish I was as clever as Bart!!!

Related posts:

• A Picture of Marty Duren
• Have you ever seen this?
• Pastoral Blogging 5a
• 2007 Christian Blogger Survey
• Another bashing…

For those of you still checking in faithfully over the last, what? Three weeks? You deserve to know what’s been going on.

I’ve been busy.

I know.  Life’s busy and if you’re going to be hosting your own site, then you owe it to the good folks who have come to depend on the sage advice, probing questions and stupid videos that you post to actually dispense these things.

Inquiring minds want to know.

Sorry.

I actually faced a bit of a dilemma with the whole situation.  I’ve been so busy with pastoring and then my personal life (had you heard I’ve taken up cycling?) and then my family’s personal lives (I’m now the chauffeur for … never mind.  If you know, you know and if you don’t, I don’t think I’m allowed to elaborate on the blog) that I have been too exhausted to write in the evenings when I typically craft my blog posts.

I considered shutting it down.

Some of you have heard that I have agreed to be an editor/contributor to a group blog called MissioScapes with some of the usual suspects.  In fact, my initial article dropped there last week.

I thought that my occasional post there my tide over my writing jones. Scratch the itch. But then, no. I don’t think it will.

Then, I thought I might start an entirely new blog.  An anonymous cycling blog from the eyes of a newbie cyclist.  So much uncovered territory.  So many obvious and yet unassaulted targets in the cycling community.  You have no idea.  I’m not even talking about the Lycra, either.

Still might do that, but then, maybe not.

If I’m too tired to write about the established aspects of my life, what makes me think an anonymous and yet unread cycling blog would drive me to shake off the web of slumber and expose the spandex clad, two wheeled, helmeted, free wheeling crowd to an audience that doesn’t even exist?

No.

The writing’s the thing.  It’s not the subject of the blog.  Do I want to write, and if so, will I set aside time to do it?

Yes.

I have decided that this is worth that and, frankly, it is you who have shown me that I should.

You’ve not said a word.  No notes. No comments.  No email.

But you’ve come back.  Daily for over a month with barely a word from me beyond unfulfilled promises of posts to come, you still drop in and read what I have not written.

Thanks.

And since you’ve apparently cared what I have to not say, I think you’ll be immenantly more interested in the things that I hope to say, so…

I’ve decided to be a blogger.

By that I mean not just the random thought or question but something interesting – or at least something I think is interesting – more than once a week.

There you have it.

Sorry, for the impromptu time off.  Thanks for sticking around.  See you soon.

Comments

• August 24, 2009, Gary Snowden writes: Art, Glad to hear that you've decided to stick with blogging. I'm not a very faithful writer at times either. There are long lapses of time that pass without a post, but then I'll get inspired and write 2 or 3 in quick succession. It's nice to have a venue for expressing one's thoughts, even if they are sporadic and periodic. By the way, I had a meeting with Rodney Hammer this past Thursday at the associational office and he described his initial meeting with you in Tulsa after having read your blog for some time. I suspect you have a lot of faithful readers. Blessings.
• August 24, 2009, art rogers writes: Gary, Fascinatingly, this brings up another issue. My comment email system wasn't working and I would not be notified of comments when they were left. I wasn't participating well in discussion, which hurt discussion and also hurt my own interest. Miraculously, it has fixed itself and your comment just appeared in my inbox. Amazing.
• August 24, 2009, Bob Cleveland writes: Art, It's axiomatic that the things we dream up to serve us, we eventually become enslaved to. I've felt the same thing about blogging, my ownself, but I finally decided I blog because of me. I enjoy the writing. And I don't write unless the bug, germ, spirit, whatever, bites me. I quit the choir for the same (admittedly twisted) reason. I'd been teaching 2 Sunday Schools for some months and when I finally made it to worship, they were doing a number they'd prepared for the Christmas Cantata, and I sat out that Sunday and loved being in the congregation out there in a pew. The little voice said "you can't quit .. you've been there longer than anybody but the pianist .. what will people think ..". God then convicted me that was precisely the wrong reason, and I've loved being "out there" ever since. If you want to write, write. When you don't feel like it, don't. It needn't be any more complicated than that. Besides, might a lot of those visits be from RSS readers, like mine? That's the only way I ever go to a blog any more since someone (you, as I recall...) mentioned them. (If it was you, a big thanks.) And oh, yes, I do enjoy your writing, or maybe I just enjoy hearing from a friend. Both, actually.
• August 24, 2009, Bart writes: Bumbling blogging bicyclist is becoming better at battling bumper to bumper bottlenecks and bringing boy to bashes.
• August 24, 2009, art rogers writes: Bob, I always enjoy your writing also, and good friends are like good medicine. Glad you're mine. Also, you are welcome for the rss feed reader, but no they don't show up in stats. Those are actual visits. Technology is fascinating, eh? Bart, Huh? ;)
• August 25, 2009, Vicki writes: I got it. I actually have an RSS feed to my work email. I'm not sure if we can do an RSS feed to our personal email (that I don't like). I wish I was as clever as Bart!!!

Related posts:

• A Picture of Marty Duren
• Have you ever seen this?
• Pastoral Blogging 5a
• 2007 Christian Blogger Survey
• Another bashing…

Oh, and please remember that the MissioScapes blog is ideological, not political, and not focused on the SBC.  Rather, since the SBC has made the move to further its ability to fulfill the Missio Dei, it seems that we are focused on the same things at the moment.  No, I don’t think we are always focused on the same things as the SBC, if that question crossed your mind.

Not to ignore my postings here at 12 Witnesses, I’ll be dropping an article this week about Christians intentionally partnering with the unholy.

I hope to pique your interest by saying that I think we should do it.  Alot.

Comments

• August 5, 2009, Marty Duren writes: You piqued my interest by having me guessing whether the GCR or MissioScapes fell into the category of "unholy."

Related posts:

• GCR Task Force Listening Luncheon Today
• A word to the wise concerning the SBC
• Ed Stetzer and the Future of Denominations
• Transitions: Deconstruction… Yes
• GCR Task Force Listening Luncheon Videos

Right now, over at MissioScapes, you can read an article from Marty Duren that is the beginning of a series entitled, “If we were the Great Commission Resurgence Task Force.” It’s Marty being Marty on the SBC and I know some of you have missed that stuff. My article will be there in a few weeks.  There are a few scheduled to drop between now and then, but all will be worth your while, I think.

Oh, and please remember that the MissioScapes blog is ideological, not political, and not focused on the SBC.  Rather, since the SBC has made the move to further its ability to fulfill the Missio Dei, it seems that we are focused on the same things at the moment.  No, I don’t think we are always focused on the same things as the SBC, if that question crossed your mind.

Not to ignore my postings here at 12 Witnesses, I’ll be dropping an article this week about Christians intentionally partnering with the unholy.

I hope to pique your interest by saying that I think we should do it.  Alot.

Comments

• August 5, 2009, Marty Duren writes: You piqued my interest by having me guessing whether the GCR or MissioScapes fell into the category of "unholy."

Related posts:

• GCR Task Force Listening Luncheon Today
• A word to the wise concerning the SBC
• Ed Stetzer and the Future of Denominations
• Transitions: Deconstruction… Yes
• GCR Task Force Listening Luncheon Videos

He started with the line, “I’m trying to get the band back together.”

Flattered that he thought me essential, but wary of being drawn back into a political melee, I was initially non-commital.  I told him I was happy trying to advance the Kingdom from my church and blogging my ideas of the Missio Dei (Mission of God) from 12 Witnesses.  I was not going back “there.”

It was a longer conversation than just that, but I ranted about the foolishness of some and the impure motives of others alongside the personal regrets that I had for my own follies.

Patiently allowing me to disgorge all my emotions, when I was done, Alan simply agreed and said that everyone pretty much felt the same way.

So I said I was “open” to the idea.

Shortly thereafter, during a video conference, Todd Littleton argued that we were Southern Baptists and that, unless we were willing to walk away completely from the SBC, then we had an obligation to stay engaged – at least ideologically.  After all, we are sending part of the tithes and offerings of our church members to the SBC.  We at least owe it to our churches to stay connected.

I had to agree.

Therefore, Paul and Todd Littleton, Marty Duren, David Phillips, John Elam, Alan Cross and I agreed to launch MissioScapes.com where we address the Missio Dei from a Southern Baptist context in several expressions (from rural to urban), but also with an eye toward things beyond our denomination.

It launched today, and we hope to bring you some great ideas alongside some that just won’t fly, but all of which we hope will spur you to think about fulfilling God’s mission to our world.  You’ll be reading interviews, book reviews and original articles from the the 7 editors and beyond.

Just for clarification, this effort is ideological and not political.  We will be addressing SBC related issues, among other things, but nobody needs or wants “a seat at the table” and we have no intention of sponsoring motions or resolutions.  Nor do we have any intent of being drawn into petty side discussions with those that do desire to dwell in the world of political mechanizations.

Oh, and 12 Witnesses is going nowhere.  I’ll still be posting here in the same vein that I have for the last couple of years and there may even be an occasion when I’ll post an article in both places.

I hope to see you around.

Related posts:

• Doing missions via the Cooperative Program
• Founders Conference Preview
• Tad and Frank Q&A
• What a day…
• Guidestone & SBC Entities, pt 2

So a few weeks ago, as I was at my in-law’s house about to head with them to a family reunion vacation for the week, I got a call from Alan Cross.

He started with the line, “I’m trying to get the band back together.”

Flattered that he thought me essential, but wary of being drawn back into a political melee, I was initially non-commital.  I told him I was happy trying to advance the Kingdom from my church and blogging my ideas of the Missio Dei (Mission of God) from 12 Witnesses.  I was not going back “there.”

It was a longer conversation than just that, but I ranted about the foolishness of some and the impure motives of others alongside the personal regrets that I had for my own follies.

Patiently allowing me to disgorge all my emotions, when I was done, Alan simply agreed and said that everyone pretty much felt the same way.

So I said I was “open” to the idea.

Shortly thereafter, during a video conference, Todd Littleton argued that we were Southern Baptists and that, unless we were willing to walk away completely from the SBC, then we had an obligation to stay engaged – at least ideologically.  After all, we are sending part of the tithes and offerings of our church members to the SBC.  We at least owe it to our churches to stay connected.

I had to agree.

Therefore, Paul and Todd Littleton, Marty Duren, David Phillips, John Elam, Alan Cross and I agreed to launch MissioScapes.com where we address the Missio Dei from a Southern Baptist context in several expressions (from rural to urban), but also with an eye toward things beyond our denomination.

It launched today, and we hope to bring you some great ideas alongside some that just won’t fly, but all of which we hope will spur you to think about fulfilling God’s mission to our world.  You’ll be reading interviews, book reviews and original articles from the the 7 editors and beyond.

Just for clarification, this effort is ideological and not political.  We will be addressing SBC related issues, among other things, but nobody needs or wants “a seat at the table” and we have no intention of sponsoring motions or resolutions.  Nor do we have any intent of being drawn into petty side discussions with those that do desire to dwell in the world of political mechanizations.

Oh, and 12 Witnesses is going nowhere.  I’ll still be posting here in the same vein that I have for the last couple of years and there may even be an occasion when I’ll post an article in both places.

I hope to see you around.

Related posts:

• Doing missions via the Cooperative Program
• Founders Conference Preview
• Tad and Frank Q&A
• What a day…
• Guidestone & SBC Entities, pt 2

I went on vacation.  I came back from vacation tired (it was one of those where you come back less rested but also less stressed) to a pile of work, a three day plumbing project and the accusation from the youth group that my new full beard makes me look like Billy Mays.

It’s almost enough to make me shave, but Bonnie says, “It’s sexy,” and after 16 years of marriage, I take seriously anything that elicits such a response.

Anyway, I’ll have to give you the story on my toilet sometime, but I just don’t have the time to do that today.  It’s a long day with much to do.

See you soon.

Comments

• July 13, 2009, John Stickley writes: Billy Mays, you say? Can't wait to see a picture! John Stickleys last blog post..Obama Man Can!

Got a few questions recently about why I haven’t posted much.  Couple of reasons…

I went on vacation.  I came back from vacation tired (it was one of those where you come back less rested but also less stressed) to a pile of work, a three day plumbing project and the accusation from the youth group that my new full beard makes me look like Billy Mays.

It’s almost enough to make me shave, but Bonnie says, “It’s sexy,” and after 16 years of marriage, I take seriously anything that elicits such a response.

Anyway, I’ll have to give you the story on my toilet sometime, but I just don’t have the time to do that today.  It’s a long day with much to do.

See you soon.

Comments

• July 13, 2009, John Stickley writes: Billy Mays, you say? Can't wait to see a picture! John Stickleys last blog post..Obama Man Can!

Why now?

Because I just had a brilliant piece of writing eaten by the exact same code on another blog.  Something that have neither the time nor inclination to attempt to duplicate…

And it caused me to think that others who might like to comment on this blog might have had the same thing happen to them.

And since I want discussion on this blog, things that might inhibit discussion should go.

So it has, at least for now.  We’ll see how it works.

I hope this will encourage more opinions in the future.

——————————————————————–

Update

Ok.  Less that 24 hours and three spam messages.

Security code is back in.  Sorry.

For those who have had comments swallowed by a message that says you have an invalid security code, only to hit the back button and have your comment gone forever…

The only way around this that I have found is to make sure you highlight and copy your comment before submitting it.  I know it is a hoop through which to jump and one easily forgotten, but I fear I have no other suggestions.

Sorry.

Comments

• June 10, 2009, art rogers writes: I've already been hit by one spam bot. I have a feeling the security code is going to go back up.
• June 11, 2009, Quinn Hooks writes: I had to do the same, Art. For some reason, I am getting spam from Russia and I can't read Russian! Quinn Hookss last blog post..Camp McCall making a difference in South Carolina

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• Pastoral Blogging 5a
• The Poll Thing
• The New Place
• Moral Failings in Ministry
• Pastoral Blogging: Easily Embed You Tube

I’ve had the comment security code in my comment field for a loooong time.  At one point it served to keep spam generating programs from commenting on my posts.  I think I can let other programs work behind the scenes to accomplish that now.

Why now?

Because I just had a brilliant piece of writing eaten by the exact same code on another blog.  Something that have neither the time nor inclination to attempt to duplicate…

And it caused me to think that others who might like to comment on this blog might have had the same thing happen to them.

And since I want discussion on this blog, things that might inhibit discussion should go.

So it has, at least for now.  We’ll see how it works.

I hope this will encourage more opinions in the future.

——————————————————————–

Update

Ok.  Less that 24 hours and three spam messages.

Security code is back in.  Sorry.

For those who have had comments swallowed by a message that says you have an invalid security code, only to hit the back button and have your comment gone forever…

The only way around this that I have found is to make sure you highlight and copy your comment before submitting it.  I know it is a hoop through which to jump and one easily forgotten, but I fear I have no other suggestions.

Sorry.

Comments

• June 10, 2009, art rogers writes: I've already been hit by one spam bot. I have a feeling the security code is going to go back up.
• June 11, 2009, Quinn Hooks writes: I had to do the same, Art. For some reason, I am getting spam from Russia and I can't read Russian! Quinn Hookss last blog post..Camp McCall making a difference in South Carolina

Related posts:

• Pastoral Blogging 5a
• The Poll Thing
• The New Place
• Moral Failings in Ministry
• Pastoral Blogging: Easily Embed You Tube

Next week looks better and I will give you a few thoughts about the Missional and Institutional Church.  Some things have gelled for me and I have come to some resolution now about where we are as a church and where we need to be.  Perhaps it will be helpful to you.

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Hey, it has been a phenominally full week.  It has been a good one, but more than I could get to and blog.

Next week looks better and I will give you a few thoughts about the Missional and Institutional Church.  Some things have gelled for me and I have come to some resolution now about where we are as a church and where we need to be.  Perhaps it will be helpful to you.

Related posts:

• Better Blogging: Update
• Hang in there
• About Baptist Press
• Pluses and Minuses
• Founders Conference: Ted Christman