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	<title>Comments on: You don&#8217;t &#8220;grow a church&#8221; with Children&#8217;s programs&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Bob Cleveland</title>
		<link>http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/09/30/you-dont-grow-a-church-with-childrens-programs/#comment-16218</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Cleveland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a real &quot;oh, WOW...&quot; thought. Thanks for posting it.

I&#039;ve printed it out and will give it to my pastor. This is the sort of thing that, if true, calls for action on the part of the church. Action to determine where folks are in their walk, and doing something about it. More than just the &quot;Priesthood of the Believer&quot; is involved here, and the old routine of the church simply offering stuff to help people doesn&#039;t seem to be getting the job done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a real &#8220;oh, WOW&#8230;&#8221; thought. Thanks for posting it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve printed it out and will give it to my pastor. This is the sort of thing that, if true, calls for action on the part of the church. Action to determine where folks are in their walk, and doing something about it. More than just the &#8220;Priesthood of the Believer&#8221; is involved here, and the old routine of the church simply offering stuff to help people doesn&#8217;t seem to be getting the job done.</p>
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		<title>By: SonyaD</title>
		<link>http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2009/09/30/you-dont-grow-a-church-with-childrens-programs/#comment-16217</link>
		<dc:creator>SonyaD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Art, 
  I wholeheartedly agree.  What seems to happen is many (not all, of course) parents are looking for a place to drop off their kids so they can &quot;farm out&quot; their own spiritual responsiblity in discipling their kids. This is probably the reason so few parents actually get involved in the ministry itself.  The parents are already involved in school activities, sports, dance, etc., etc., so they really don&#039;t desire to make an additional commitment to youth or children&#039;s ministry. Unfortunately, it seems to have become all about the church that has the &quot;flashiest&quot; ministry for kids.  Sadly, these kids are being groomed to have a consumer, shallow mindset. Church attendance is just one of many things they might choose to participate in. Many of these parents equate their kids being involved in church activities on the same level of importance as ball practice, or cheerleading or any other school activity. I could say a lot more, but I&#039;ll get down off my soapbox now! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art,<br />
  I wholeheartedly agree.  What seems to happen is many (not all, of course) parents are looking for a place to drop off their kids so they can &#8220;farm out&#8221; their own spiritual responsiblity in discipling their kids. This is probably the reason so few parents actually get involved in the ministry itself.  The parents are already involved in school activities, sports, dance, etc., etc., so they really don&#8217;t desire to make an additional commitment to youth or children&#8217;s ministry. Unfortunately, it seems to have become all about the church that has the &#8220;flashiest&#8221; ministry for kids.  Sadly, these kids are being groomed to have a consumer, shallow mindset. Church attendance is just one of many things they might choose to participate in. Many of these parents equate their kids being involved in church activities on the same level of importance as ball practice, or cheerleading or any other school activity. I could say a lot more, but I&#8217;ll get down off my soapbox now! :)</p>
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