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	<title>Comments on: God&#8217;s glory in our churches</title>
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	<description>Let these stones be a witness to what we have done here this day.</description>
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		<title>By: art rogers</title>
		<link>http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/10/27/gods-glory-in-our-churches/#comment-15494</link>
		<dc:creator>art rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In today&#039;s vernacular... yep.

In reference to the Missio Dei, I think you can see even Carey aligned with it in the full title:  &quot;&lt;b&gt;Expect great things from God&lt;/b&gt; [and] attempt great things for God.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In today&#8217;s vernacular&#8230; yep.</p>
<p>In reference to the Missio Dei, I think you can see even Carey aligned with it in the full title:  &#8220;<b>Expect great things from God</b> [and] attempt great things for God.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ah...so really it should be &quot;get off your butt&quot; as opposed to &quot;sit&quot; :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ah&#8230;so really it should be &#8220;get off your butt&#8221; as opposed to &#8220;sit&#8221; :-)</p>
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		<title>By: art rogers</title>
		<link>http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/10/27/gods-glory-in-our-churches/#comment-15492</link>
		<dc:creator>art rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,

I had a similar thought the first time I heard the title of this sermon/quote from Carey.

Under the context thought, it makes a lot more sense.  He was preaching to hyper-Calvinists who had determined that if God wanted to &quot;save the heathen&quot; then God would do it and needed no help from us.

Carey was trying to move them off of their backsides and into motion.

&quot;Attempt&quot; as opposed to &quot;Sit&quot;.

I don&#039;t think he was arguing against the Missio Dei.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>I had a similar thought the first time I heard the title of this sermon/quote from Carey.</p>
<p>Under the context thought, it makes a lot more sense.  He was preaching to hyper-Calvinists who had determined that if God wanted to &#8220;save the heathen&#8221; then God would do it and needed no help from us.</p>
<p>Carey was trying to move them off of their backsides and into motion.</p>
<p>&#8220;Attempt&#8221; as opposed to &#8220;Sit&#8221;.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think he was arguing against the Missio Dei.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t even think God buys into the idea that we&#039;re &quot;attempting&quot; these great things for Him.

Should we even be ATTEMPTING things for God as if we didn&#039;t know what pleased the heart of God? I seems to me that there&#039;s a fairly simple list in scripture of what pleases God. I think if we&#039;re doing those things then we don&#039;t have to &quot;attempt&quot; anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t even think God buys into the idea that we&#8217;re &#8220;attempting&#8221; these great things for Him.</p>
<p>Should we even be ATTEMPTING things for God as if we didn&#8217;t know what pleased the heart of God? I seems to me that there&#8217;s a fairly simple list in scripture of what pleases God. I think if we&#8217;re doing those things then we don&#8217;t have to &#8220;attempt&#8221; anything.</p>
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		<title>By: art rogers</title>
		<link>http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/10/27/gods-glory-in-our-churches/#comment-15488</link>
		<dc:creator>art rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric - Exactly!

And perhaps misguided, as well.  For God to consider something to be a &quot;great attempt,&quot; wouldn&#039;t it need to be following something He is doing rather than building edifices to our own name?  Just for instance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric &#8211; Exactly!</p>
<p>And perhaps misguided, as well.  For God to consider something to be a &#8220;great attempt,&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t it need to be following something He is doing rather than building edifices to our own name?  Just for instance.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/10/27/gods-glory-in-our-churches/#comment-15487</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the &quot;great&quot; things that get attempted &quot;for&quot; God in alot of churches today...I don&#039;t know that God considers them great. I think he just might consider them a little boring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the &#8220;great&#8221; things that get attempted &#8220;for&#8221; God in alot of churches today&#8230;I don&#8217;t know that God considers them great. I think he just might consider them a little boring.</p>
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