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	<title>Comments on: Institutional v. Missional Church:  Structure</title>
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	<description>Let these stones be a witness to what we have done here this day.</description>
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		<title>By: art rogers</title>
		<link>http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/07/28/institutional-v-missional-church-structure/#comment-15305</link>
		<dc:creator>art rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, yeah.  I see what you mean.

I misunderstood what you were saying.  I thought you were talking about the two Missional Church diagrams.

Yes, the Institutional Church, if it is doing well, is a VERY busy place.  If it is not busy, it is probably about to die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, yeah.  I see what you mean.</p>
<p>I misunderstood what you were saying.  I thought you were talking about the two Missional Church diagrams.</p>
<p>Yes, the Institutional Church, if it is doing well, is a VERY busy place.  If it is not busy, it is probably about to die.</p>
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		<title>By: Bart</title>
		<link>http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/07/28/institutional-v-missional-church-structure/#comment-15304</link>
		<dc:creator>Bart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked the busy-ness aspect of your whiteboard drawing. &quot;Stuff&quot; at church can demand a lot of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the busy-ness aspect of your whiteboard drawing. &#8220;Stuff&#8221; at church can demand a lot of time.</p>
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		<title>By: art rogers</title>
		<link>http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/07/28/institutional-v-missional-church-structure/#comment-15301</link>
		<dc:creator>art rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bart,

Yes, generally de-churched would describe believers that have become disenchanted with the church.  this is not to say taht the church is always at fault in such a situation.  sometimes people choose to walk away and blame the inevitable shortcomings of the church as the &quot;reason&quot; they chose to separate.

There is the group of people who were raised in church but never came to know God and now are Apart from Him.  Of course, not all of these people are de-churched, either.  Some of them still occupy the pews on Sunday mornings, every so often.

That topic is really kind of different than the one addressed in the differentiation of the Institutional and Missional Church Structures, though, and is not really addressed in either depiction.

And, yes, the missional church drawing was much more busy and not as well done as this version.  I had to clean it up a bit because I&#039;m such a perfectionist.  This is probably the twentieth rendition, to tell the truth.  It took a while to get it like I wanted it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bart,</p>
<p>Yes, generally de-churched would describe believers that have become disenchanted with the church.  this is not to say taht the church is always at fault in such a situation.  sometimes people choose to walk away and blame the inevitable shortcomings of the church as the &#8220;reason&#8221; they chose to separate.</p>
<p>There is the group of people who were raised in church but never came to know God and now are Apart from Him.  Of course, not all of these people are de-churched, either.  Some of them still occupy the pews on Sunday mornings, every so often.</p>
<p>That topic is really kind of different than the one addressed in the differentiation of the Institutional and Missional Church Structures, though, and is not really addressed in either depiction.</p>
<p>And, yes, the missional church drawing was much more busy and not as well done as this version.  I had to clean it up a bit because I&#8217;m such a perfectionist.  This is probably the twentieth rendition, to tell the truth.  It took a while to get it like I wanted it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bart Rhea</title>
		<link>http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2008/07/28/institutional-v-missional-church-structure/#comment-15300</link>
		<dc:creator>Bart Rhea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 02:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a better drawing than yesterdays. Althouth the traditional church diagram yesterday had a feeling of busy-ness and confusion.

Is the definition of dechurched in the diagram, believers that have dropped out of fellowship with other believers for whatever reason?</description>
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<p>Is the definition of dechurched in the diagram, believers that have dropped out of fellowship with other believers for whatever reason?</p>
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