Author: art rogers

Church Staffing: Education v Experience, pt 2

Tuesday, May 27th, 2008 @ 12:01 am

In the previous installment of of church staffing I discussed, briefly, the difference between the desire of education versus experience. I asked more questions that inspired a few really good comments, but let me go ahead and give my full thoughts on the subject.

First of all, I admit that I took an incredibly complex subject and reduced it to “this or that” in hopes of generating some discussion, which it did. This blog existed for so long as a personal opinion piece that the community aspect has not rooted well. The longest discussions we had here, though they were mostly genteel, were also adversarial. Without controversial subjects, discussion here has struggled since I turned the blog from SBC politics. So… I have been pretty excited to get some fairly good responses on these last couple of posts on Church Staffing.

Still, I have some thoughts on it myself and would like to give those to you. I would love for you to respond, though these types of pieces don’t often generate as much response. Nevertheless, here goes…

The education v experience formula is not an issue of balance, or if it is balance it is not the kind of balance that one might find on a see-saw, with a fulcrum at one mostly central point and two things holding the tension from opposite ends. There are not two things here: Education and Experience.

When we speak of experience, what kind of experience is that? Mission field? Youth Ministry? Children’s Ministry? Senior Pastor? Lead Pastor? Volunteer?

Likewise, when we speak of education, what kind would that be? Bible College? Seminary? MDiv? ThM? PhD? DMin? Which Seminary? SBC better, or worse? What about self educated men? What about online education?

I have known people with formal educations that were not the brightest. They merely jumped through the hoops. On the other hand, Marty Duren is self educated. There is a difference between uneducated and self educated, you know. Having a degree is not always the test of mental capacity.

And then there’s experience. I postulate that my 10 years of experience as Associate Pastor of a County Seat FBC, was definitely prepared me for the position of Lead Pastor in many ways better than serving as the Senior Pastor of a 25 member church in a smaller town. Yet, in some ways, it surely would have taught me different things.

I think the particular job, church, town and vision for the future all create a mixture of need
that also needs a particular balance of backgrounds and much, much more. In short, the staff position is like a recipe that needs just the right balance of this, that and the other. The next question is, how do you determine that recipe?

That’s up next.

PS - Marty is about to wrap up his Bachelor’s Degree and I think it is onward and upward from there.  I feel sorry for all the twenty something kids that are getting the bell curve busted by him.

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4 Responses to “Church Staffing: Education v Experience, pt 2”

  1. Jim Stratton Says:

    Based on my extensive culinary expertise, it seems to me the recipe is determined by what you are trying to make. I believe that we often staff in a manner less than contemplative. If we lose our music/ed person we immediately advertise for music/ed without asking are we better off looking for something else altogether. If the church does not know what it is and what it wants to become it will not matter if a Ph.D. or an OB/GYN is in the pulpit.


  2. Mike Woodward Says:

    I’m really enjoying this series. This topic is highly relevant to my life as I’m praying through what God would have me do regarding education as a “homegrown” bi-vo associate pastor. While I have a BS in Computer Science, and 20 years in the IT industry, I don’t think coding programs to do exactly what I want them to do translates perfectly to the local church context…or maybe it does (GIGO?)

    I go through phases where I work through my own resources (textbooks, online lectures, etc.), then start looking into residential seminary programs. As I am a father of five, I then quickly move into looking at Distance Learning options. This whole process causes me to ask several questions:

    1) What “value” does seminary offer for me, i.e. am I looking to seminary just for a credential?

    2) Do I see God ever moving me from my current church (of which I was a layperson just a few months ago) to another ministry?

    I’ve often wondered if churches offered a seminary-lite program for laity if we would be raising up more pastor-leaders.

    Mike Woodwards last blog post..I’m still reading the Gospel of Matthew…


  3. Bart Rhea Says:

    In the business world I have taken and used career profile tests to try and get the right “recipe” for employees. I’ve also used compatibility tests to see if the prospect would fit our team/culture.

    Both have had mixed results. They did help discern potential problems with prospects.

    My recipe for staff:
    1 teaspoon knowledge
    4 teaspoons wisdom
    1 cup Micah 6:8
    Mix well with prayer

    God knows, we have to listen and wait for the right recipe.

    Bart


  4. art rogers Says:

    Really good thoughts, Jim and Bart. Nice tag with the “recipe”.

    Mike,

    I think what Micah wrote in the previous piece was relevant, about people always being learners. You can find that comment May 27th, 2008 at 7:43 am by clicking on the link.


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