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	<title>Comments on: The Run Down June 28, 2007</title>
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		<title>By: Scott Gordon</title>
		<link>http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2007/07/28/the-run-down-2007-07-28/#comment-7641</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Art,

Thanks for the post.  As a fellow pastor I&#039;ve tried to deal with this issue from the pulpit and I get the most chilled response from my people.  It&#039;s like I was talking about racism in the 1960&#039;s.  Anyway, you&#039;re right.  We must deal with all issues we face together in our everyday lives.

And by the way.  Tell your Music &amp; Youth Pastor to get himself to work.  Jason is a great friend and a wonderful brother in Christ... He&#039;s been a &quot;part&quot; of our family for years.  If you ever need any good stuff on him...let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art,</p>
<p>Thanks for the post.  As a fellow pastor I&#8217;ve tried to deal with this issue from the pulpit and I get the most chilled response from my people.  It&#8217;s like I was talking about racism in the 1960&#8242;s.  Anyway, you&#8217;re right.  We must deal with all issues we face together in our everyday lives.</p>
<p>And by the way.  Tell your Music &amp; Youth Pastor to get himself to work.  Jason is a great friend and a wonderful brother in Christ&#8230; He&#8217;s been a &#8220;part&#8221; of our family for years.  If you ever need any good stuff on him&#8230;let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Rogers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lu,

Amazing words.  Thanks for being so &quot;to the point.&quot;  I&#039;d love to investigate this further, sometime.  I see pornography wrecking homes left and right.  For the sake of others&#039; confidentiality, I won&#039;t go further.

The guys at xxxchurch.com are right, though.  In the church, it is a dirty little secret that many of our people are in bondage to this stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lu,</p>
<p>Amazing words.  Thanks for being so &#8220;to the point.&#8221;  I&#8217;d love to investigate this further, sometime.  I see pornography wrecking homes left and right.  For the sake of others&#8217; confidentiality, I won&#8217;t go further.</p>
<p>The guys at xxxchurch.com are right, though.  In the church, it is a dirty little secret that many of our people are in bondage to this stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Lu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Kevin. As I&#039;ve said before elsewhere (which, come to think of it, you may not have seen), issues of women&#039;s sexual struggles are grossly misunderstood and ignored in the church. We struggle just as much as men with a lot of things the church tends to say are specifically male issues. Sexual addiction is not just a men&#039;s problem. We women are just as vulnerable to it. It may not look exactly like a man&#039;s struggle, but then again, a coke addict may not look just like a functioning alcoholic, but both are still addicts. Unfortunately, the help available to men isn&#039;t available to us, mainly because the church has so bought into the lie that we don&#039;t struggle with it. Also, I think women&#039;s ministry leaders are either too ashamed (perhaps they struggle with it themselves) or too embarrassed by topics such as pornography or other kinds of sexual addiction to bring it up.

I&#039;ve been reading a book called &quot;No Stones: Women Redeemed from Sexual Shame&quot; that has helped me understand a good deal of my own struggles in this area. Most women (and men too, I think) have been deceived by the various books out there as well as by the general teaching of society and the church that we just don&#039;t have the same struggle with sex as men do. That&#039;s just a bold-faced lie. And it sets up women for horrible falls into deep sin patterns that she feels must be kept hidden at all costs. Its doubly shameful because a) it&#039;s sin and b) it&#039;s not &quot;feminine&quot; or &quot;womanly&quot;;&quot; these are &lt;i&gt;men&#039;s&lt;/i&gt; issues and what kind of a disgusting whore I must be to struggle with them,&quot; is the way our thinking goes. Its no wonder its only being discovered now. Our mothers and grandmothers were too ashamed to come out of the closet and the only reason we&#039;re coming out now is because, with all the skeletons in there there&#039;s no room left for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Kevin. As I&#8217;ve said before elsewhere (which, come to think of it, you may not have seen), issues of women&#8217;s sexual struggles are grossly misunderstood and ignored in the church. We struggle just as much as men with a lot of things the church tends to say are specifically male issues. Sexual addiction is not just a men&#8217;s problem. We women are just as vulnerable to it. It may not look exactly like a man&#8217;s struggle, but then again, a coke addict may not look just like a functioning alcoholic, but both are still addicts. Unfortunately, the help available to men isn&#8217;t available to us, mainly because the church has so bought into the lie that we don&#8217;t struggle with it. Also, I think women&#8217;s ministry leaders are either too ashamed (perhaps they struggle with it themselves) or too embarrassed by topics such as pornography or other kinds of sexual addiction to bring it up.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been reading a book called &#8220;No Stones: Women Redeemed from Sexual Shame&#8221; that has helped me understand a good deal of my own struggles in this area. Most women (and men too, I think) have been deceived by the various books out there as well as by the general teaching of society and the church that we just don&#8217;t have the same struggle with sex as men do. That&#8217;s just a bold-faced lie. And it sets up women for horrible falls into deep sin patterns that she feels must be kept hidden at all costs. Its doubly shameful because a) it&#8217;s sin and b) it&#8217;s not &#8220;feminine&#8221; or &#8220;womanly&#8221;;&#8221; these are <i>men&#8217;s</i> issues and what kind of a disgusting whore I must be to struggle with them,&#8221; is the way our thinking goes. Its no wonder its only being discovered now. Our mothers and grandmothers were too ashamed to come out of the closet and the only reason we&#8217;re coming out now is because, with all the skeletons in there there&#8217;s no room left for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Bussey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Bussey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Art,

My wife and I have dealt with a few women (not here in Charlotte) who have struggled with porn.  It is a killer for male and females.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art,</p>
<p>My wife and I have dealt with a few women (not here in Charlotte) who have struggled with porn.  It is a killer for male and females.</p>
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