Missional shift begins Wednesday. Note the countdown timer. I am looking forward to it as well.

woof woof!

david

Art, I thought you were done with all this sort of blog-barking. I thought you were moving on to other things. I’m looking forward to the other things. There are only so many times you can go around this block and not lose your sanity.

Cyle

me too.

david

Seriously, it was good to see you again in San Antonio. I am sorry about the problem you had with a room. I mean that. Work hard tomorrow. Somebody is counting on you. I still owe you that cup of coffee. I will pay. I hope it is soon.

cb

Upset? Vol, you are always upset. Now, just chew with care. You will get through this and maybe you will learn………NAH…You won’t. You never do:-)

cb

first of all, around my neck of the woods, grammer is not the highest priority in our life. in these parts, my grammer is better than most. btw, i know about capitalization, and if i was writing a formal letter, or writing a book, i’d do it. but, i aint. i’m just talking to you all.

secondly, in my neck of the woods, the presbyterian churches are mostly liberal and dead. i havent really scratched around to see if they are pcusa, fed ex, irs, ecoc, grade a, or what. there are one or two in memphis that i know about that are good churches. and, the methodist churches around here are all dying and going down. i know of some pastors personally who were called out of retirement to pastor three churches at the same time.

thirdly, i dont even know what a npp/fv heresy is. maybe you would like to explain it to me seeing how smart and intellectual you are with your big brain and all.

fourthly, i aint an arminian. you got me all wrong.

cb, you think that what gene bridges says makes me upset in any way? i’m sure that his momma loved him, but i have dealt with such things before, and far worse. my bro., you ought to know me better than that by now. :)

david

cb

A. It does not bode well when one cannot capitalize the first word of sentence.

B. I would point out that you’re lumping several groups together. Let’s take the “Presbyterians.” Which Presbyterians, David? The PCUSA, the PCA, OPC, EPC, BPC?

C. Presbyterianism has always suffered from a shortage of pastors. They have always had fewer churches. This is nothing new and is partly a function of their educational system and ordination process, the latter of which makes ours look like a cakewalk. There are real seminary level church history exam questions, for example, on their ordination oral examinations.

D. Hasn’t the PCA finally completed their (overly long and involved) disciplinary process through their court system and labeled NPP/FV heresy? I believe that they have. I believe the OPC is shortly to do the same.

E. The OPC’s growth has accelerated in recent years, and hasn’t the PCA grown quite rapidly in recent years? They have nearly 400,000 members now. That’s not bad for a denomination that was started in December of 1973. In fact, I gather that many of their new people are coming from SBC churches, not because they are buying into paedobaptism, but because they are sick of the point of view you represent. Some are Calvinists who are tired of the anti-Calvinism. Some are Arminians (yes, you can be a member of a Presby church and be Arminian) but are tired of the politics. Others are sick of the legalism. Some, like a good friend of mine who was a deacon at the 2nd largest SBC church in NC, were tired of the latitudinarianism and lack of church discipline, where churches would brag about having 5000 “members” while less than half showed up on Sundays. You don’t see that in the PCA church he joined.

are you saying that it’s a waste of time to talk to me? is that what you’re implying?

thanks marty. God bless you, bro.

david