I’ll trade my hugs for a “How do we work together to fix this thing, and to keep it permanently resolved for Christ’s sake?” I can’t sing anyway.

Blessings back at ya today, brother!

SBC Leadership? I love most of ‘em. :)

Group hug!!

ugh, ugh, ugh, … ok, that is enough. I feel like getting my guitar and strumming kum-ba-ya (sp)

Now, if Bart and I could speak to you about the SBC Leadership.

:>)

Blessings,
Tim

At the time that the agencies chose to exit the MBC, people in elected leadership roles on the executive board–some of whom still are in such roles–vehemently disagreed with the agencies’ actions, and the board discussions were very vocal ones! (The feelings and reactions, I imagine, were similar to those at the time that Baylor University’s leadership exited it from its then-existing relationship with the BGCT.) There probably wasn’t as much listening taking place as was needed–but it wouldn’t have mattered, as folks were not and are not in agreement with the agencies’ basis for exiting (and a certain degree of denial existed and continues to–”Our attitudes and approaches could not possibly be the reason for all of this . . . !”).

As the 2001 annual meeting of the MBC approached, I predicted that one yet-to-depart agency also would choose to exit the convention–but, its leadership hadn’t made that choice by the start-date of the convention. During a meeting on the first evening of the convention, I spoke with the president of that agency and told him what my prediction had been. His reply was that that agency’s leadership indeed hadn’t chosen to exit–and that it was known to be a “choice” agency to seek to retain–but also that “no one had better come after it” or its leadership would indeed make other choices. To date, that agency still is in the MBC fold–and under the same president’s leadership.

The 2001 annual meeting of the MBC was the saddest I’ve ever experienced, as the majority of messengers present easily dismissed biblical mandates regarding not suing Christian brothers (secular news reporters were present; they could not believe what they were seeing or hearing; some of them probably were lost people, and may still be today). At its conclusion, I attended the subsequent executive board meeting in the dining hall of the headquarters hotel, looked around the room at those now serving on the board, knew where that group would take the convention, and immediately walked to my room in the same hotel to email a note to the Baptist Building indicating my resignation from the board. I had no intention of being a part of what has transpired since under the leadership of those folks and ones since. That’s the “most in leadership” mentioned above.

Those were interesting times, to say the least.

Count me in on that. Bart, you and I have agreed on some things from time to time and disagreed on other things. I have never been more in agreement with anything you have ever said.

Art

I don’t often agree with you and Tim in the same comment string, but I agree wholeheartedly with you on this one. Let them go is what I keep trying to say here in Missouri. Unfortunately most don’t seem to agree with me. Most in leadership, that is.

Messy, messy, messy.

For my two cents worth, I believe that the lawsuits are not only wrong, but they are also unwise. The departure of these institutions may be a gift from God to allow some state conventions to slim down and refocus.

Now that is something that we can both agree on! :-)

Blessings
Micah
Psalm 67

You are correct about the lawsuits. However, I do not see it happening in NC. I know that I will not vote for the convention to go to court.

Blessings,
Tim