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		<title>By: Art Rogers</title>
		<link>http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2007/03/11/broken/#comment-5418</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank... Cent..., Hey.  Frankincense.  Sorry.

I am all for fighting for the SBC.  It is what I have done and what I am doing.

I don&#039;t know that I could have sinned against any one person in particular and my apology wasn&#039;t toward a single person.  It was more about who I was becoming and the attitude I had.

Moreover, my experience was not really anything to do with the SBC.  In that moment, I was just overwhelmed with the realization of God&#039;s Sufficiency and my weakness, my wickedness and His graciousness.  The attitude over the SBC was just one place that the experience of &quot;seeing God&quot; set me right.  It just so happens that, since I blog here about the SBC, when this are was corrected, it is here that I addressed it.  I also have dealt with other things in my life as a result of this moment in my walk with God.  I just didn&#039;t blog about them all.

Thanks for the encouragement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank&#8230; Cent&#8230;, Hey.  Frankincense.  Sorry.</p>
<p>I am all for fighting for the SBC.  It is what I have done and what I am doing.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know that I could have sinned against any one person in particular and my apology wasn&#8217;t toward a single person.  It was more about who I was becoming and the attitude I had.</p>
<p>Moreover, my experience was not really anything to do with the SBC.  In that moment, I was just overwhelmed with the realization of God&#8217;s Sufficiency and my weakness, my wickedness and His graciousness.  The attitude over the SBC was just one place that the experience of &#8220;seeing God&#8221; set me right.  It just so happens that, since I blog here about the SBC, when this are was corrected, it is here that I addressed it.  I also have dealt with other things in my life as a result of this moment in my walk with God.  I just didn&#8217;t blog about them all.</p>
<p>Thanks for the encouragement.</p>
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		<title>By: F. Turk</title>
		<link>http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2007/03/11/broken/#comment-5413</link>
		<dc:creator>F. Turk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 04:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Art --

Let&#039;s remember that the SBC isn;t everything, but it&#039;s worth fighting for.  People who want the SBC to be some kind of completely-uniform code of morals paired with a specific escatology are worth opposing, but not at the cost of our own integrity.

If you have sinned against your brother, go and make it right with him.  But don&#039;t forget that we serve a God who sets the captives free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art &#8211;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s remember that the SBC isn;t everything, but it&#8217;s worth fighting for.  People who want the SBC to be some kind of completely-uniform code of morals paired with a specific escatology are worth opposing, but not at the cost of our own integrity.</p>
<p>If you have sinned against your brother, go and make it right with him.  But don&#8217;t forget that we serve a God who sets the captives free.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Loreaux</title>
		<link>http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2007/03/11/broken/#comment-5012</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Loreaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 04:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you. From a Trinitarian Presbyterian. Lord Jesus continue to bless you and humble me.

Sorry. Don&#039;t know what &quot;5585 (required)&quot; means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you. From a Trinitarian Presbyterian. Lord Jesus continue to bless you and humble me.</p>
<p>Sorry. Don&#8217;t know what &#8220;5585 (required)&#8221; means.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Cardwell</title>
		<link>http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2007/03/11/broken/#comment-4423</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Cardwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I placed your site in my favorites recently.  However, I just read your account of your recent brokeness experience in Thom Rainer&#039;s email.  I appreciate your transparency and honesty in relating how we get so busy doing and how God brings us back to what&#039;s really important.  In times as this I&#039;m blantantly reminded of Gal. 2:20.  It IS all about HIm and our obedience to him and just how much he loves us.  God bless and thanks again for your openness.  Gary Cardwell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I placed your site in my favorites recently.  However, I just read your account of your recent brokeness experience in Thom Rainer&#8217;s email.  I appreciate your transparency and honesty in relating how we get so busy doing and how God brings us back to what&#8217;s really important.  In times as this I&#8217;m blantantly reminded of Gal. 2:20.  It IS all about HIm and our obedience to him and just how much he loves us.  God bless and thanks again for your openness.  Gary Cardwell</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Ball</title>
		<link>http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2007/03/11/broken/#comment-4359</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Ball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Art, Not even sure how to post.  Do not want to laud you per your request, but thanks again for the wakeup call to brokenness.  It is amazing how quickly I can get busy and distracted and need the reminder that apart from Christ I am nothing.  Even from several hundred miles and a couple of states away, you still speak into my heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art, Not even sure how to post.  Do not want to laud you per your request, but thanks again for the wakeup call to brokenness.  It is amazing how quickly I can get busy and distracted and need the reminder that apart from Christ I am nothing.  Even from several hundred miles and a couple of states away, you still speak into my heart.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2007/03/11/broken/#comment-4338</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Art, I completely agree that apart from Christ a person is &quot;twisted and broken&quot;.  However, I don&#039;t believe there is a distinction, as a believer, between who I am apart from Christ and who I am in Christ.  I am in Christ and have His righteousness now.

However, if you are thinking about your B.C. days and what the Lord has done in your life since, then I&#039;m completely on board.  Sometimes it takes this Kentucky boy a little while to catch on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art, I completely agree that apart from Christ a person is &#8220;twisted and broken&#8221;.  However, I don&#8217;t believe there is a distinction, as a believer, between who I am apart from Christ and who I am in Christ.  I am in Christ and have His righteousness now.</p>
<p>However, if you are thinking about your B.C. days and what the Lord has done in your life since, then I&#8217;m completely on board.  Sometimes it takes this Kentucky boy a little while to catch on.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Rogers</title>
		<link>http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2007/03/11/broken/#comment-4299</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

Thanks for the encouragement.  I want to say though, the person you describe, &quot;You are a holy and righteous saint. You are a co-heir with Christ. You have the mind of Christ. You are perfect (Heb. 10:14),&quot; is who I am in Christ.  That is what overwhelmed me - what Christ has done in and to me, though I don&#039;t deserve it.

A point of honesty, I do believe with all my heart that the sentence that you quoted is extremely Biblical.  Mankind is twisted and broken in and of ourselves - apart from Christ.  I think it is extremely Biblical.

I am afraid that I did not make clear the separation between the description of who I am apart from Christ and who I am in Christ.  It was the perspective between the two that broke me.

I hope that helps.

Art</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>Thanks for the encouragement.  I want to say though, the person you describe, &#8220;You are a holy and righteous saint. You are a co-heir with Christ. You have the mind of Christ. You are perfect (Heb. 10:14),&#8221; is who I am in Christ.  That is what overwhelmed me &#8211; what Christ has done in and to me, though I don&#8217;t deserve it.</p>
<p>A point of honesty, I do believe with all my heart that the sentence that you quoted is extremely Biblical.  Mankind is twisted and broken in and of ourselves &#8211; apart from Christ.  I think it is extremely Biblical.</p>
<p>I am afraid that I did not make clear the separation between the description of who I am apart from Christ and who I am in Christ.  It was the perspective between the two that broke me.</p>
<p>I hope that helps.</p>
<p>Art</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2007/03/11/broken/#comment-4298</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Art, I am a casual reader of your blog but had to comment on this post.  I think the brokenness you displayed is needed among our church leaders and I&#039;m encouraged to see a heart that responds to the movement of the Lord.  

However, there was one sentence that compelled me to post.  You stated, &quot;I am a worm.  Dirt.  Filthy and foolish.&quot;  I&#039;m not sure I&#039;ve read a more unbiblical phrase on this blog, or any other, ever.  You are a holy and righteous saint.  You are a co-heir with Christ.  You have the mind of Christ.  You are perfect (Heb. 10:14).  I could go on but you get the point.

Now, granted, you (or I) don&#039;t always act this way but to say we are less is to throw Christ&#039;s sacrifice back into the face of God.  We didn&#039;t do anything to earn all those things.  Christ made us that way when we accepted His gift of salvation. To put it another way, what we do is not who we are but who we are has a tremendous impact on what we do.

As a final word of encouragement, the man who mentored me told me to never trust a man who doesn&#039;t walk with a limp.  I believe the Lord is giving you a &quot;limp&quot; through this process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art, I am a casual reader of your blog but had to comment on this post.  I think the brokenness you displayed is needed among our church leaders and I&#8217;m encouraged to see a heart that responds to the movement of the Lord.  </p>
<p>However, there was one sentence that compelled me to post.  You stated, &#8220;I am a worm.  Dirt.  Filthy and foolish.&#8221;  I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;ve read a more unbiblical phrase on this blog, or any other, ever.  You are a holy and righteous saint.  You are a co-heir with Christ.  You have the mind of Christ.  You are perfect (Heb. 10:14).  I could go on but you get the point.</p>
<p>Now, granted, you (or I) don&#8217;t always act this way but to say we are less is to throw Christ&#8217;s sacrifice back into the face of God.  We didn&#8217;t do anything to earn all those things.  Christ made us that way when we accepted His gift of salvation. To put it another way, what we do is not who we are but who we are has a tremendous impact on what we do.</p>
<p>As a final word of encouragement, the man who mentored me told me to never trust a man who doesn&#8217;t walk with a limp.  I believe the Lord is giving you a &#8220;limp&#8221; through this process.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyle Clayton</title>
		<link>http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2007/03/11/broken/#comment-4290</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyle Clayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for reminding us of our depravity

I wish I lived close enough to you to hang out with you

anyone who will be broken by God makes a good friend in this life, and the next

Cyle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for reminding us of our depravity</p>
<p>I wish I lived close enough to you to hang out with you</p>
<p>anyone who will be broken by God makes a good friend in this life, and the next</p>
<p>Cyle</p>
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		<title>By: Marty Duren</title>
		<link>http://www.twelvewitnesses.com/2007/03/11/broken/#comment-4289</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty Duren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and spilled out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and spilled out.</p>
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