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The IMB Response to the Wade Burleson Motion with Baptism and PPL on the Side

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I interrupt the series of posts on Pastoral blogging to bring you the response of the IMB to the Wade Burleson motion referred to them by the Convention in Greensboro. Interesting commentary and Baptism and PPL update to follow. ;)

The unanimous response of the IMB, without discussion, adopted in Plenary session.

In response to the motion that “the Executive Committee appoint an ad hoc committee to determine sources of the controversies in the International Mission Board, and make findings and recommendations regarding these controversies, so that trustees of the IMB might effect recomciliation and effectively discharge their responsibilities to God and fellow Southern Baptists by cooperating together to accomplish evangelism and missions to the Glory of God,” the International Mission Board meeting in session on January 30, 2007, respectfully submits the following response:

The Board of Trustees of the IMB, which consists of 89 trustees elected by the Southern Baptist Convention, is convinced that it has, and will continue, to discharge its responsibilities and fiduciary accountability to the SBC in cooperation to accomplish the board’s ministry assignments of evangelism and missions. The diversity of personalities, backgrounds and churches represented invariably is reflected in different opinions in giving oversight to the work of the IMB. This diversity is necessary in arriving at consensus and determining the leadership of God in making decisions within the board’s assigned responsibilities. We contend that any controversies have been dealt with according to appropriate Biblical guidelines and in line with democratic processes and approved board polity.

With the counsel and concurrence of the International Mission Board executive staff, the board of trustees responds to the five concerns expressed in the motion as follows:

(1) The manipulation of the nominating process of the Southern Baptist Convention during the appointment of trustees for the IMB.

The International Mission Board has no authority to speak to the work of the nominating committee elected by the Southern Baptist Convention or to investigate the process by which it does its work.

(2) Attempts to influence and/or coerce the IMB trustees, staff, and administration to take a particular course of action by one or more Southern Baptist agency heads other than the president of the IMB.

It is assumed that any and all heads of SBC entities are concerned about the effectiveness of all entities in order for the SBC to fulfill its kingdom task in the world. While the IMB may exercise authority over its own president and elected staff, we are not in a position to question or investigate the actions and motives of heads of other entities.

(3) The appropriate and/or inappropriate use of forums and executive sessions of the IMB as compared to conducting business in full view of the Southern Baptist Convention and the corresponding propriety and/or impropriety of the chairman of the IMB excluding any individual trustee, without Southern Baptist Convention approval, from participating in meetings where the full IMB is convened.

The IMB does not allow formal business to be transacted in its closed Trustee Forums, but uses this time for prayer, personal testimonies and preliminary questions and discussions regarding issues of mutual concern between senior staff and trustees. Official executive sessions are limited to matters dealing with sensitive personnel actions related to staff, missionaries and/or trustees or those in which public exposure would result in detrimental consequences for personnel serving in sensitive and restricted locations around the world.

Any actions that may be taken to exclude any trustee from participating in closed board sessions by the chairman will have been made with support of the board as a last resort and in order to avoid disruption and distractions to the board fulfilling its assigned tasks with unity and appropriate decorum.

(4) The legislation of new doctrinal requisites for eligibility to serve as employees or missionaries of the IMB beyond the 2000 Baptist Faith and Message.

While the Baptist Faith and Message represents a general confession of Southern Baptist beliefs related to Biblical teachings on primary doctrinal and social issues, the IMB retains the prerogative and responsibility of further defining the parameters of doctrinal beliefs and practices of its missionaries who serve Southern Baptists with accountability to this board.

(5) The suppression of dissent by trustees in the minority through various means by those in the majority, and the propriety of any agency forbidding a trustee, by policy, from publicly criticizing a board approved action.

All board approved actions result from a process of committee, and sometimes multiple committees, consideration before they are brought to a plenary session for adoption. All trustees have opportunity in the committee process and plenary session to express and advocate minority opinions. As in any democratic body, once the majority has determined the action to be taken, the board feels that the action should receive the unified public support of all trustees for the sake of effectively moving forward to fulfill our mission task.

The end of this is simply that the BOT of the IMB does not think the SBC as a whole should be telling them what to do and how to do it. This should surprise no one. We already knew that the BOT felt that they had a better grasp on their agency than the general population of the SBC, and especially better than the blogger informed crowd that seemed to support this motion. Frankly, this should be the case. Whether or not it is the case is part of the debate.

As far as my expectations go, this is pretty much what I was ready to receive. When you ask an agency to police itself against accusations that it is failing to police itself, then you can’t expect much else. Also, let me be quick to add that I am sure many on the BOT find the accusations unfathomable and for good reason. I am confident that a great many on the BOT have had nothing but the utmost integrity and forthrightness while serving and have not seen much of the substance of these inquiries. Of course they wouldn’t respond otherwise. IF (note the emphasis) there are those who are guilty of any actions reflected in these inquiries, then they are not likely to respond otherwise, either.

I think that what happens with this report, upon its presentation in San Antonio, is dependent on the Baptism & PPL issues.

Oh, yes. This report does not address those issues. It is my understanding that the ad hoc committees are going to do some intensive work to wrap up their charge and present a final proposal to the IMB BOT at the next session.

Where is the next session of the IMB BOT, where these issues will be decided before the convention?

Why, in MEMPHIS, of course. Who says God doesn’t have a sense of humor?

To finish my aforementioned thought, this motion will probably be forgotten if the IMB reverses positions on the Baptism and PPL issues. They are the heart and soul of everyone’s interest with the IMB right now, no matter which side you are on.

On the other hand, if the ad hoc committees recommend no change, or little change, it would seem that there might be something significant on which to vote at this year’s convention. That could be interesting, noting that there is now an attempt by some to start rallying the troops. (Check the comment section of that link for more along those lines.) *In the interest of fairness, I am not sure that the “rallying” actually “started” here, but the term “full slate of messengers” popped up unexpectedly and got my attention.

Up until now, there had been no speculation whatsoever about anything that might be coming up. That’s why I found the link above so puzzling. This was in the context of the Dr.Klouda/SWBTS/Paige Patterson issue, but none of that is eligible for a decision from the SBC. Any attempt to force the SWBTS Trustees to do one thing or the other would be ruled out of order or referred to the Trustees. As long as the Trustees are who they are and there is no significant dissent from within, the point is moot.

That’s why a call to bring full slates of messengers confused me. The only vote we knew would happen… that is… the only vote of MAJOR SIGNIFICANCE that we KNEW would happen, is the one for the office of President. Frankly, I wondered if maybe this wasn’t an attempt to dislodge Frank Page.

I’ll give them all the benefit of the doubt, though. Unless something changes my mind, I’ll just assume that they are expecting to defend at least one of these restrictions and maybe the referral of this motion back to the Executive Committee.

In the end, they may be right. There may be a whole lot to vote on in San Antonio – besides the office of President. We will see.

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Pastoral Blogging pt. 1

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12 Witnesses is not my first blog. Louie Giglio used to publish an online journal of his spiritual thoughts and I read it constantly. This was ten years ago or so. Louie had a profound impact on my spiritual life through “Choice,” a Bible Study that was the precursor to the Passion Conferences that are now national and powerful.

I followed suit. I published an online journal on our church’s website, which I designed and ran. I was hopeful that it might inspire our students as Louie inspired me.

Years later, I got involved with some of the forums at the Youth Specialties website. Many of those folks spent time blogging, but I didn’t quite know what that was. I researched a little, started one, and then ditched it. It was a personal, family blog, but I worried about putting too much about my kids on the internet, for obvious reasons in this time when lurking predators are many.

Finally, I started Theoblogian Today in September of 2005. I was just intending to talk about general ministry and theology. I thought the name was witty. In January, 2006, I read my state Baptist Paper and found out about the stir brewing at the IMB. The Archives of that time will reveal the growth process, including why I changed the name. If you don’t want to sift the through the Archives, it was because the name sounded pithy and shallow in light of the serious things I was discussing.

12 Witnesses then moved from the original site url, theoblogiantoday.blogspot.com, to the new one, twelvewitnesses.blogspot.com. Recently, it has come to rest in a permanent place: twelvewitnesses.com. I purchased the rights to the name, url and some server space to make sure I never had to do that again.

Here are a few thoughts about all of that.

  1. No one much read what I was writing early on because I never interacted on other blogs. Commenting insightfully is the quickest way to get people to follow the link back to your blog and begin reading what you are writing.
  2. I commented anonymously at first, because I was afraid that I might hurt my chances in future ministry. I started commenting and posting under my own name because I noticed that people tended to ignore folks who didn’t own their words, and I felt that if I was afraid to own my words, they must not be worth much.
  3. Blogspot blogs were the easiest and most well known originally, but blogger became a nightmare. I can’t tell you how many times it crashed my blog, ate my template and froze up at just the wrong moment. I finally quit blogger, well after many of my fellow bloggers moved on, when it allowed a slew of sexually explicit spam in my comment section, despite the security measures.
  4. I now use WordPress. At first, I wasn’t all that impressed with the software and wondered why everyone raved about it so much. In the end, I found many benefits to WordPress software that have made me very happy with my current situation.
  5. Throughout the year of 2006, I have occasionally posted on other subjects beyond the SBC, but I know that my readership, while interested in those things for the most part, have the SBC in common.
  6. The blogosphere is a free marketplace of ideas. If you have something to say, particularly if you are adept at writing, people will read what your thoughts.
  7. Not everyone who reads your thoughts agrees with you. I have had over 200,000 individuals and over 500,000 pageloads on the various forms of this blog in the last year. Certainly I have had my fair share of folks who disagreed with me. That’s fine. It’s about conversation. Well, it is supposed to be, anyway.

Believe it or not, I have a lot more. Future posts will include my thoughts on time management and the tricks I’ve learned to streamline my blogging experience, as well as the programs I use and why. Also, I will write on why I think it matters to do what I have done – invest the time, energy and money in this blog, 12 Witnesses.

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Pastoral Blogging

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With all the talk over the last year about blogging pastors – from praises to condemnations – I have thought of posting a series about what I have learned and why I blog. I plan to start posting this series tomorrow.

It will include some background, personal thoughts, explanations of purpose and hopes for what it may accomplish. I will also talk about how I make the best use of time through prioritizing and tricks of the trade that have made things easier and easier.

With that, please take note that 12 Witnesses will shut down between the hour of 7 pm and 8 pm Eastern. This is so that the WordPress software can be upgraded by guru David Phillips.

Thanks.

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Dr. Dockery Interview and Live Blog

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Over the last week, Timmy Brister has posted an extensive interview with Dr. David Dockery. Dr. Dockery is the President of what could be called the SBC’s collegiate standard, Union University in Jackson, Tennessee. Being a Youth Minister for the previous 19 years of my life (before I became a Lead Pastor), I have encouraged many of my students to consider Union as one of their options in furthering their education.

Dr. Dockery and Union University are hosting the Baptist Identity II Conference in February. It is widely regarded by many on all sides of the issues under discussion within the SBC that Dr. Dockery is really seeking to bring unity to a rapidly dividing convention. I’ll be there.

I suppose it is no secret that some people wanted Dr. Dockery to run for President of the SBC last year. He declined, citing a lack of conviction and an enormous schedule – which is apparent. I do not doubt the Sovereignty of God in the election of Frank Page, but I do hope that Dr. Dockery will be available to lead us in the future. It is clear to me that he would bring tremendous spiritual depth and wisdom to the the position and we would certainly be blessed.

Tonight, from 8:00 pm EST until 10:00 pm EST, Dr. Dockery will be answering questions on Brister’s blog. Questions can be submitted after 7:30 pm EST on a post specific to the live blog. Only one question per person. Full details on the live question and answer session can be found at this P&P special announcement.

Before tonight, you should read the full interview. The links are as follows:

Intro

Part One

Part Two

Part Three

Part Four

Part Five

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Christian Bloggers Survey

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ministrypastor.blogspot.com
http://ministrypastor.blogspot.com

Simplyjosh.com
http://Simplyjosh.com

churchonomics.com
http://churchonomics.com

marcpitman.com
http://marcpitman.com

ifjesushadawebsite.net
http://www.ifjesushadawebsite.net

ngpfocus.wordpress.com
http://ngpfocus.wordpress.com

danieldecker.net
http://www.danieldecker.net

ericbryant.org/blog
http://www.ericbryant.org/blog

thefissiongroup.com/blog
http://www.thefissiongroup.com/blog
livelikejesus.com/blog
http://livelikejesus.com/blog

emergingwomen.blogspot.com
http://emergingwomen.blogspot.com

julieclawson.blogspot.com
http://julieclawson.blogspot.com

post-methodist.blogspot.com
www.post-methodist.blogspot.com

edbuford.blogs.com
http://edbuford.blogs.com

jeffsmithspeaks.blogspot.com/index.html
http://jeffsmithspeaks.blogspot.com/index.html

churchcommunicationspro.com

http://www.churchcommunicationspro.com

 

friesville.net/blog

http://friesville.net/blog

 

ministrymarketingcoach.com

http://ministrymarketingcoach.com

 

johnsmulo.com

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douglast.com/thoughts

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thebellsite.com

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morethanstone.blogsome.com

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theflippingsweetblog.blogspot.com

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blog.aspiringindie.com

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spirittalks.blogspot.com

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chriselrod.com

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microexplosion.com

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levite.wordpress.com

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learning2beastoryteller.blogspot.com

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billspondering.blogspot.com

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mattandnancy.org

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mondaymorninginsight.com

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themerge.blogspot.com

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semilladeamorgt.blogspot.com

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mattsingley.com

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kelly94942.blogspot.com

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melindalgroth.blogspot.com

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churchrelevance.com

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lapalabra.ws/blogs

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twelvewitnesses.com

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thoughtsofacountrypreacher.blogspot.com

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knhamann.blogspot.com

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nanolog.blogspot.com

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missionsconnexion.com/cs

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communionreflections.blogspot.com

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victorychristianfellowship.net

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timothymyson.blogspot.com

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rbcgrace.com/deanblog/index.html

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digitalchurch.com.au

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thecrossers.com/blog

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http://www.newlifebrisbane.blogspot.com

straightfrompastor.blogspot.com

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lifeofchrisrandomthoughts.blogspot.com

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arktrav.blgspot.com

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http://www.jonathaneverette.blogspot.com

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http://www.seabourn.org

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jonathaneverette.blogspot.com

http://www.jonathaneverette.blogspot.com

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preacherjoe.blog

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http://www.pastorsview.blogspot.com

severnrun.wordpress.com

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waitingforsunday.com

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reverandd.bravejournal.com

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otherstudentministry.com/blog.cfm

http://www.otherstudentministry.com/blog.cfm

jayhardwick.com

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stonecreekchurch.com

http://www.stonecreekchurch.com

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http://www.unfoldingneurons.com

the-beat-goes-on.blogspot.com

http://the-beat-goes-on.blogspot.com

fbcsulphur.org

http://www.fbcsulphur.org

evenyou.blogspot.com

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http://now-lets-see.blogspot.com

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http://jeffreycrawford.blogspot.com

thewhatisup.blogspot.com

http://www.thewhatisup.blogspot.com

trevorscott.vox.com

http://www.trevorscott.vox.com

gmchurch.org/blog

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blog.myspace.com/servingtheking

http://blog.myspace.com/servingtheking

chipsanders.blogspot.com

http://chipsanders.blogspot.com

tommyham/typepad.com

http://tommyham/typepad.com

highercallingchurch.blogspot.com

http://www.highercallingchurch.blogspot.com

livingwatermuscatine.com

http://www.livingwatermuscatine.com

thislamp.com

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blog.myspace.com/nathanhyde

http://blog.myspace.com/nathanhyde

bibleblog.typepad.com

http://www.bibleblog.typepad.com

peanutsizzler.blogspot.com

http://www.peanutsizzler.blogspot.com

danmoore.livejournal.com

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cmol.org

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mikebellanti.voxtropolis.com

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lenscleanse.blogspot.com

http://lenscleanse.blogspot.com

darinsrealtruth.blogspot.com

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graceforme.org

http://www.graceforme.org

jeffsmithspeaks.blogspot.com

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leehodges.blog.com

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growingtogether.net

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nathanrice.org

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sdmkp.blogspot.com

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360.yahoo.com/genblessings

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Be a light to the Kloudas

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In talking with a friend today, he expressed concern for Dr. Klouda’s well being and that of her family. It is clear that her being forced out of Southwestern Seminary has taken a heavy financial toll on them all. My friend said that he grew up learning that it was not enough to “curse the darkness” but that we must “light a candle.”

I would encourage you to give to meet the needs of the Kloudas. I don’t have any other suggestion than that you send them some money, and you can send it to:

Dr.Sheri Klouda
C/O Taylor University
236 West Reade Ave.
Upland, IN 46989

Don’t send cash, as that is easy to steal. A check made out to Sheri Klouda will help immensely. I can only hope that it will go some distance in healing the wounds that her whole family, but especially her daughter, may be feeling toward established Christianity.

As a Youth Minister for almost twenty years, the story of her pain stood out to me when I read Hannah Elliot’s articles. I guess my heart focused on her role in all of this. I have seen through personal experience and through statistics that the children of those who serve, either in the local church or in a denominational capacity, turn to resentment and begin to question the Christian faith when one or both of these reasons are in place:

1. When they see their parents as false Christians – saying one thing but living another, OR

2. When they see their parents mistreated by those who are supposed to represent the body of Christ.

Either of these two things often create a sense of being jaded by the body of Christ and then they often begin to view Christians as simply “religious” and as hypocrites.

Your gifts may well show the whole Klouda family that the body of Christ is a caring one. They deserve it.

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On the Reccord, Pt. 2 [updated]

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When I posted my book review of “Spending God’s Money,” by Mary Kinney Branson (Father’s Press), I noted clearly that Branson was not a dispassionate observer and that her book’s content was made up of some things documented, some things observed and some things “hearsay.”

One of the people noted by Branson as one who may have been working on outside projects while on NAMB hours was Carolyn Curtis. Mrs. Curtis has now posted a response on Marty Duren’s blog, and with his permission, I am republishing it here.

I think it is a healthy thing to get “the other side of the story” in situations like this and I am glad Mrs. Curtis is willing to speak out.

Here is her response:

Someone sent me copies of pages from Spending God’s Money by Mary Branson on which I was referenced by first name or job title or responsibility at the North American Mission Board. The pages include gross inaccuracies and implications (making me wonder if the rest of the book is flawed), so the purpose of this is to correct the information and impressions.

The author implies I did ghostwriting for Bob Reccord, Randy Singer and Ed Stetzer and that I did it during office hours. This is absurd on several levels.

I’ll begin by explaining ghostwriting versus editing. The last book I ghostwrote was Believing the Promise, published by Doubleday, a division of Random House, Inc. in 1999, which was before I took on any personal editing for NAMB executives. My name is listed on the cover under the author’s name, Heather Whitestone McCallum, with this notation: “with Carolyn Curtis.” This is the publishing industry’s standard way of crediting a ghostwriter, which is a person who actually does the writing on behalf of an author, usually a celebrity not gifted with writing abilities but with a worthy story to tell.

Another example: In 2005 Bob Reccord co-authored a book entitled Strike Zone with a World Series-winning pitcher, Andy Pettitte. The book was published by Broadman & Holman, now B&H. Like McCallum, Pettitte did not claim to be a writer and credited his ghostwriter, Mark Tabb, in his Acknowledgments. Like myself in the previous paragraph’s example, Tabb was credited by the publishing house using the “with” designation on the cover.

This explanation is to make several points.
• Publishing houses have standards which apply not only to differentiating between editorial processes such as “ghostwriting” and “editing” but standards which apply to content as well. (More about that later.)
• Bob Reccord, Randy Singer and Ed Stetzer have backgrounds in fields such as ministry, the law and missiology – communication professions – and they do not need ghostwriters. However, like every conscientious author I know, they needed an editor, and I’m pleased they chose me. (Publishing houses edit the material, even after the author and the author’s editor have submitted the manuscript. Again, publishing houses have standards…but, as promised, more about that later.)
• I charge an hourly fee, and the authors paid me using personal checks. No Cooperative Program or NAMB money went toward editing their books. And I’m happy to say that in each case the payments were made promptly, in full and always with gratitude.
• My work on these books was done during non-business hours. In the pages sent to me from Spending God’s Money, Mary Branson writes: “…Carolyn conferred extensively with Bob during working hours…” As editor of NAMB’s flagship magazine, I occasionally had reason to confer with the president. For example, a flagship magazine is often a lightning rod for comments on its parent agency via Letters to the Editor. If one came in that I thought he should be aware of, I made sure he saw it. I did not confer with book clients during office hours. And the book editing was done on my home computer during evening and weekend hours. On two occasions, I attended meetings with their publishers during office hours for a book co-authored by Bob Reccord and Randy Singer, and in both cases I took vacation time. (Just to be diligent, after receiving the pages sent to me of Spending God’s Money and seeing how my work on these books was represented – specifically the issue of using working versus non-working hours – I checked discs I’d made of correspondence as well as edits on the manuscripts. I admit this was a tedious review, but the tone of Mary Branson’s writing – so factual sounding! – made me doubt my own memory. Here’s what I found: Of 126 emails between me and Bob Reccord on his last two books, only four were written between 7 a.m. and 7 p.m., Monday through Friday.)

The parenthetical data above – way more info than anyone needs – illustrates another point I want to make, and I hinted at it earlier. Publishing houses have standards. On the few pages sent to me from Spending God’s Money, I see comments and anecdotes on other people (in addition to ones referencing me) that range from factually inaccurate to blatantly vitriolic. In my statements above I’ve given several from the first category. The ones that fall into the category of vitriol (defined as scathing, caustic, abusive, etc.) are about people with whom Mary Branson did not get along. I wonder how much space she devotes to publicly berating people.

From what I see on the pages sent to me, despite some footnoting, these comments and anecdotes do not adhere to standards of journalism or book publishing or – dare I say? – to Christian communicating. Shame on Mary Branson, who says she has authored 17 books and directed the Home Mission Board’s editing, for perpetrating a fraud. She knows the difference between writing that is honest and accurate and writing that hurts people and agencies. Why she chose to fold the latter into a manuscript in which she intended to open dialogue about stewardship is beyond poor judgment – it reduces her thoughts to personal attacks.

Legitimate publishing houses (Christian and secular) will not be a party to this kind of attack. For one thing, they avoid claims of libel; they recognize libel and don’t allow it. For another, like other professionals, legitimate book publishers maintain ethical standards so that credibility remains high within the industry (consider the difference between “books” and “tabloids,” although both are published).

Now enter the world of self publishing – and all its variations. In our free enterprise system and protected by the First Amendment’s clause on freedom of speech, authors like Mary Branson who cannot get a manuscript such as Spending God’s Money published elsewhere can print it and distribute it in the way that she did.

However, I caution: A person’s writing which is printed on book-sized paper and bound at the spine does not make it a “book” any more than a home video of your son reading his term paper makes that a television program.

Based on the pages sent to me, I can see why publishing houses rejected Spending God’s Money. A manuscript with pages like the ones I’ve seen would violate their standards and put them in jeopardy of lawsuits. Even if a publisher thought the manuscript was basically worthy but needed some editing, pages like these would not show up; the publisher would have required verification – not only of facts but of meaning. Publishers, after all, deal not just in words but in ideas. It’s a responsibility they accept, and they require it of their authors.

However, I also can see why Spending God’s Money would be a “juicy read” for people who like controversy and hearsay, especially gossip. It may even contain elements of truth (I’ve heard it has some suggestions worth pondering).

But, for my money, I’d prefer suggestions from a writer who adheres to the disciplines and standards of the publishing industry and who does not use a self-created public forum to air her personal grievances against others, people with whom I’ve worked for years, who – like all humans – have moments of genius and moments of misjudgment but, most of the time, operate in that vast middle ground. That’s why I’m disappointed – no, outraged – that Mary Branson would take broad swipes at so many godly people, using them to discredit individuals and agencies she dislikes. Spending God’s Money is not a book; it is personal acrimony disguised as literature.

I’ll add that it’s intimidating to enter the fray on a blog. (I’ll correct another inaccuracy in Spending God’s Money. I did not leave NAMB in a deal that uses Cooperative Program money, and I was not asked to sign anything that prevents me from communicating about NAMB.) The blogosphere is intimidating, because I know of no pithy statement that 1) refutes the lies, 2) corrects misimpressions, 3) adds context or perspective and – oh, yes, 4) advances the cause of the gospel. But I can speak up, and so I am.

The gospel is about a personal relationship with our Savior that leads us to personal responsibility. Regarding the people named in the book (or not named), how many bloggers are asking them (via emails, phone calls or meetings) for facts, context and perspective on the many allegations and accusations? It’s unreasonable to think these people will “blog” such nuanced information. (I have addressed only a few of the book’s inaccuracies, the ones pertaining to me, and look how much I’ve written.) For that matter, how many bloggers are questioning why, after she left NAMB, Mary Branson did not personally confront the many people of whom she disapproved or with whom she did not get along, rather than writing a public finger-wagging and wrapping it in self-righteousness? Of course, personal confrontation is difficult for most of us, but – if we have facts and feelings as strong as the ones she expressed and we believe God wants us to expose them – He will give us courage and opportunity. One more: Are bloggers asking why, if Mary Branson didn’t feel free to tell what she considered the truth to NAMB trustees while she was an employee, she didn’t do so after she left three years ago? Considering her tone and stated conviction, it seems that would have been a priority.

God bless you and thanks for taking time to read this.

Originally posted at SBC Outpost.

Mrs. Curtis is concerned that bloggers may not be interested in the nuance of accuracy when it comes to the issues surrounding NAMB and “Spending God’s Money.” I hope that she, and others like her, will understand that there are quite a few of us who are interested in just that.

[update Friday, Jan 26, 2007 9:23 pm Central] Mary Branson posted a response to Carolyn Curtis at SBC Outpost. In fairness, I add it here:

This is my only additional statement on the book, regardless of what’s said, but I feel I have to answer Carolyn’s comments.
Father’s Press is not a self-publisher though, once again, there seems to be an assumption that bigger is better.
I used phrases such as “it was rumored” in many places in SGM to protect sources even though I knew it would hurt my credibility. However, I do feel that I have to name one source. I sat in Carolyn Curtis’ kitchen, as she pointed out the flowers Bob and Cheryl gave her for her birthday, and I listened to stories that are now part of the book. Carolyn was quick to share several things.
Carolyn, want to take polygraphs?
I think we’re all missing the point. People were used to tell a much more important story. It’s not about Bob. Or Carolyn. Or me. It’s about spending God’s money and I hope we’ll all think carefully about doing that in a more responsible way. If we do, all this “discussion” will be worth it.

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Dr. Klouda on the record [updated]

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ABP has posted two stories by Hannah Elliot concerning the issue of Sheri Klouda’s dismissal from SWBTS.

There are several things that are significant about these two stories.

First, Dr. Klouda speaks for herself and there can now be no insinuation that those telling her story are misrepresenting the situation. As she overtly contradicts the claim that she was never promised tenure, if SWBTS’ Faculty or Trustees wish to deny this point they must call her a liar. Read what she says and judge for yourself if she is.

Second, Dr. Klouda has affirmed that everything in the original story on Wade Burleson’s blog which denies the claim by Trustee Chairman, Van McClain, that the story was “full of inaccuracies.”

Thirdly, her interview affirms the hardships on her family as a result her being forced out of SWBTS. Untold before is the reality that her daughter has born a hardship of resentment because the action was so “unfair.”

Fourthly, and finally, the articles affirm that SWBTS’ accrediting agencies, SACS and ATS, have been contacted about gender discrimination. It has yet to be determined whether or not the agencies would consider the religious exemption worthwhile in this situation.

Read them both:

Sheri Klouda surprised at fallout…

Accrediting agencies asked to probe…

[update Friday, January 26, 2007 9:30 pm]

MSNBC has picked up the story and has some first hand words from Dr. Klouda:

Professor: Seminary ousted her over gender

Five things of note in this article:

  1. Dr. Klouda again states that Dr. Patterson once affirmed her position was secure, upon which knowledge she bought a house, and thereafter he reversed what he told her, denying her tenure.
  2. Van McClain states that the Seminary has, by eliminating women teaching in the theology department, returned to its “traditional, confessional and Biblical position.” Returning, he claims, from “relaxed parameters.” The problem with this, of course is that women teaching at Southwestern has never been a specific “tradition” at Southwestern – I don’t remember it ever discussed in my time there and neither does any other alumnus with whom I have spoken; and it is certainly not specifically confessional nor is it specifically Biblical. The Seminary is not the church and professors aren’t pastors. The only way to justify that statement is to completely eisegete the BFM and to strictly interpret 1 Tim. 2:12 so that women must be in submission to men well outside the local church, which is a return to a particular part of historical culture, but not one necessarily contained in the text as a prescription. To be sure, it is a tight interpretation and not one agreed upon in consensus. *I note here, in full disclosure, that I frequently say that being in the majority does not make you right, and that applies here as well. It is, of course, juxtaposed against a certain group who claims to represent the majority opinion on almost everything under discussion within the SBC. On this issue, it is ironic that they clearly are NOT in the majority as they hold a view of submissive women far outside the church/family parameters into academic institutions. This is not, it seems, a majority view. That is only something to note because they so often hang their hats on the claim of majority.
  3. Van McClain’s claim that Dr. Klouda was SIMPLY denied tenure as are so many other professors throughout America rings especially hollow if she was indeed told that she would be terminated. She says that the timeline was one that had a finish date that varied from conversation to conversation and always moved forward in time, ending finally in 2006.
  4. Van McClain’s claim that, “The seminary went far beyond anything that could be expressed as its duty or responsibility” is equally as hollow considering the financial burden the family incurred based on a promise of security from Paige Patterson and the loss of everything from tenure years, equity in their home, decreased pay and insurance benefits for her family, the patriarch of which has a heart condition and is unable to work steadily.
  5. Finally, Dr. Klouda leaves open the possibility of action against the school. It seems that once again the school is left vulnerable.

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SWBTS Trustees

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Because of the questions swirling around Dr. Klouda’s leaving Southwestern Seminary, the question has been asked how members of SBC churches can contact the Trustees of that institution. Thanks to Micah Fries, who tracked down this document, we can offer you their official contact information.

As always, I urge you to behave in a way that most glorifies Christ. Some of you may agree with her departure, and others of you, it has become clear, do not. Whatever your feelings on the issue, be sure to thank our Trustees for serving the SBC. They are giving of their time and energy to do so.

This document is in Microsoft Word format:

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On the Reccord – NAMB’s Tell All

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Where to start?

Mary Kinney Branson’s book, “Spending God’s Money” (Father’s Press), is a rambling tell all about the inner workings of NAMB (and the HMB) before, during and just after Bob Reccord’s Presidency. It is not the most well written book I have ever read, but it was riveting. Really hard to put down, the tale leaves you nauseous when you realize that the tithes and offerings that you and I have given have funded the largess that the book describes.

I have a few critiques of the book to start, but I’ll finish with the punch.

Critiques

First, Branson comes off judgmental and mad. I am not saying that she has no right to be mad. From her account, she had some personal slights and legitimate problems with her time at NAMB, serving two steps under the President. Still, it reads as though she were one of the only few interested in God and His direction. It reads as pious indignation. That wears on the reader after a while.

Grammatically, she speaks poorly of others’ writing skills, but she has some awkward sentence structure in certain places. Stylistically, Branson tells stories out of sequence, which makes it hard to keep track of everything. She often tells parts of the same storyline chapters apart. It would have been better if she had started at the beginning and moved straight through in chronological order.

Also, she often refers to people ONLY by their first name. I am unsure as to why she did this. I have considered that she might have been trying to protect certain people with a general anonymity, but she could have been building some plausible deniability into the book in case she were sued by someone who took umbrage with her depiction. She should have used their full name, referred to them anonymously or not even mentioned them. The first name only references were a bad choice.

Finally, Branson gives us a jumble of documented research (complete with footnotes), personal observation and hearsay. Some of the stuff documented will curl your toes and some of the personal stories will leave you shaking your head. The hearsay will raise an eyebrow. I only caution you to differentiate what is what – not all things are irrefutable in this book and Branson is clearly not a dispassionate observer.

NAMB’s Response

NAMB is supposed to be releasing an official statement – maybe today – and when it comes, I will post it here.

[update: This is NAMB's official response]

North American Mission Board
Statement Regarding
Spending God’s Money

During the spring of 2006, an article in the Georgia Christian Index raised a number of questions about the effectiveness and efficiency of the North American Mission Board. In response to these concerns, the Chairman of NAMB’s Board of Trustees appointed a task force to assess the claims and bring a report back to the full board of trustees. Similarly, an internal audit was conducted by Capin Crouse related to policy issues within the executive offices at NAMB. Both groups published reports including policy recommendations designed to provide increased accountability within the agency. In October, 2006, our Board of Trustees adopted these new policy recommendations and created a new trustee committee tasked with oversight of policy development and compensation assessment.

Recently, Mary Kinney Branson, a former NAMB employee, published a book entitled Spending God’s Money. In this book, she recounts personal events from her time at the Home Mission Board and NAMB. While some of the issues she discusses in the book were examined as part of work of the Trustee Task Force, other issues she discusses are based on her personal experiences, her personal opinion, or hearsay. The North American Mission Board will not comment on internal issues described in the book which are outside the scope of the work of the Trustee Task Force. This is not because NAMB is unwilling to address its problems—the clarity and transparency of the Task Force Report show the willingness of our trustees to deal with agency challenges. Rather, it is because many of the claims made by the author cannot be substantiated or represent only one side of the story.

We regret that while telling her story, the author called into question the character of many current and former employees; people who were not given the opportunity to respond to her charges. Regardless, those events are now in the past, and NAMB is now pressing on into the future. The North American Mission Board and its trustees stand behind the report of the Task Force and the policies which have been adopted as a result. During the past year, the North American Mission Board has worked diligently to refocus its vision and reconnect with its state partners. The January 4, 2007 issue of the Georgia Christian Index provides a helpful overview of the current status of ministry at NAMB during this season of transition.

While the North American Mission Board would take issue with a number of suggestions in the book, not the least of which is the writer’s call to do away with “SBC-style cooperative missions” through large agencies, NAMB does support the call to all churches and SBC entities to function within a system of accountability. NAMB, through the diligence of its trustees and staff, is modeling this type of accountability and oversight in the Southern Baptist Convention. And Southern Baptists are the true beneficiaries. The trustees, NAMB staff and missionaries greatly appreciate the faithfulness of Southern Baptists to North American Missions through this year’s record Annie Armstrong Easter Offering of $58.5 million. Southern Baptists have observed our agency during this challenging time, and they have responded to our transparency and commitment to accountability with their generosity. We believe 2007 will be an exciting year as we continue to partner with Southern Baptists to reach North America for Christ.

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Sources within NAMB reveal a mixed bag. Some of Branson’s claims are denied – notably the things she does not document but are things she overheard. Some of her claims, most interesting the stories and descriptions of Bob Reccord (“Hollywood Bob”), are being confirmed.

The Punch

Branson tells of, and sometimes documents, a series of cronyism; blind or ignorant Trustees; a disconnected President and set of VP’s who micromanage, mismanage and ignore personnel and our tithe monies; and even a scandalous double payment system where employees double dip from NAMB funds by receiving salaries and using NAMB resources to fund their personal enterprises. Can you believe that was all one sentence?

There are several versions of the double dipping formula presented. The simplest was the work on personally authored books contracted outside of NAMB by Reccord and others while in the NAMB office. This, apparently, set a standard that others followed and abused at new levels. I hear the story that “Ed” (presumably Stetzer) did this is being denied in house, but the implication that Reccord did it is being confirmed.
The worst stories (regrettably, there were multiple occasions and offenders) were about people who created and owned independent companies and then sent business to themselves from their NAMB office and paid themselves from their NAMB budget. Because contracts with these self owned companies had to be bought out after the story broke, I am under the impression that this is not illegal. If it isn’t illegal, it’s immoral. Beyond that, it is sickening.

Conclusion

If this book doesn’t cause a drop in CP giving, it will be because people don’t read it. I am afraid that if my church members read it, they would want to decrease (maybe significantly) our CP contributions. That would break my heart, as I want the SBC to be as equipped as it can be to take the Gospel to the lost, wherever they are.
Even though Branson suggests that the time may be over for the Cooperative Program (pg. 16), I do not feel that way at all. My conclusion is that Southern Baptists need to seek and obtain full disclosure of spending within all of our agencies and we need to root out mismanagement and immoral abuses of our tithes and offerings.

That would suit me just fine.

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