I have a question? Didn’t the Coliseum have a sign as you enter about having a wristband on to buy beer? Why didn’t we move our convention elsewhere.
Just a thought!

Good night
Kevin Lancaster

Tim D

Thank you for your words. As to the character assault issue, I understand where you are coming from, but just disagree.

Even saying what you are saying now is not near as bad, in my mind, as calling them those names.

I assure you, by the way, VR is a man. He is a friend.

Dorcas – I know, the thought of him in a dress with a purse and certain ladies’ hat has me rolling!

art

The suggestion made in a comment that Villa Rica is a woman really made my day. Still laughing!

If anyone feels I have assualted a character, please forgive me. That is not what I have done. I call it like I see it and I see BB and VR (when I can understand) using words and hyperbole that bites and stings those against whom they post.

Also, now Wades Dad has weighed in to defend his son. I respect that, but I always come back to the Biblical ground that alcohol is wrong for a Christian because of the weaker brother. WE CANNOT FORGET THEM! What is most important–we impress a heathen, or we keep a weaker brother from stumbling?

Thanks for the alert. That changes everything. Back. That changes everything back. Something like that.

Jeff,

I assure you that I am not attacking anyone. I am raising issues that I think are important. From the comment string on the ladies’ luncheon, many comments from ladies, I would say that many others think it is important as well.

My problem with the luncheon was that the organizer has had a personal penchant for lavishly decorating presidential mansions at two seminaries, and I think the theme of the luncheon reflected that a bit.

As to this post, Dr. Floyd is not the subject. The reversal of course is my concern.

I see it as the natural outworking of the Alcohol Resolution, to which you eloquently spoke during the convention. I would have posted about this if any SBC pastor (Wade Burleson included) had done the same thing.

I have no problem with Dr. Floyd supporting the stadium or not supporting the stadium. Either are defensable positions. The reversal, and the timing of it, strike me.

Tim,

Ok. Items one by one, then.

1. My description of those guys to Adam was in the vein of, “If you react this strong to my words, ARB’s are stronger, BB’s are stronger, yet, and VR’s don’t seem strong, but are very much so.” I did not impugn their character. I was not saying that BB would attack Adam, as you seem to have read it. Yes, you did misread my words.

Calling someone a “vicious pit bull” and a venomous snake is a reference to character. If not, then to what is it a reference? It can be nothing else.

If BB describes himself saying, “I’m mean as a snake. Sly as a fox. And dirty as a dog,” then he is free to do so. We are free to quote him on that. We are NOT free to add to it or reinterpret it. To my knowledge, VR has never made such a statement about himself, either.

Oh, and VR is a man, not a woman.

2. Why would you think that I would hide a motive for repremanding you? Have you ever known me to duck an issue? Have you ever known me to say one thing but mean another?

Occum’s Razor, cousin. Unless compelling evidence of something else is present, a thing is what it appears to be.

Do you have evidence that I have a problem with your stance on alcohol? I don’t.

I have said in this very post that I do not drink and do not like being around drunkards.

I do disagree with the resolution, because I think it extra-biblical. That is my opinion.

In fact, you are very welcome to express your opinion on this NON-ESSENTIAL issue here as well. I have no problems with it – though I differ slightly from you.

In case you have not known this from the beginning or learned it by now: I promise to tell you exactly what my problems are with anything you say and not obfuscate it in any way.

I did this earlier and I am doing it again.

art

PB

“The idea that to drink a glass of wine, or any other alcoholic beverage is a sin against God is foreign to the teaching of the inerrant Word of God.”

“Drunkenness is a scourage on our society and we must sharply rebuke anyone, including the alcohol industry, who minimizes or encourages drunkenness and we treat sin seriously.”

The other one ,[Tim Rogers}…says
“Now you ‘have a problem’ with what I posted. Brother, your problem does not seem to be with my comment so much as it seems to be with my post concerning
the Weaker Brother argument when it comes to alcohol.”

“Face it, you have a problem with that post because there is no defense to christians shouting FREEDOM while pushing a DRUG onto society and saying they are being BIBLICAL.”

Now let’s see…who is pushing something here? Who is shouting something here?

Paul Burleson

I was wrong, Springdale is in Washington County. You can buy booze there.